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Union Plans To Picket Verizon Over Customer Service

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Published: April 3, 2008

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TAMPA -- Verizon's largest labor union in Florida is asking employees to picket the company's workplaces Monday. But the protest isn't about their jobs at Verizon.

Rather it's about the level of customer service the company is giving customers, union officials say.

"Verizon is not letting us do our jobs, and not letting us take care of the customer," said Doug Sellers, president of the union that represents Verizon call center and repair workers, the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers, Local 824. "Customers are waiting up to 10 days to get their phone lines fixed … If you have something as simple as static on your line, that could be out 10 to 15 days."

Verizon spokeswoman Sharon Shaffer said the union has the right to picket.

"But I can assure you that Verizon has acted well within the bounds of the contract," she said in a statement. "We will continue to build on a shared commitment among our employees to ensure that Verizon customers experience quality service. We will continue to work with our employees and within our agreements to that end."

Sellers said too many resources have been diverted to selling more Verizon services, rather than fixing customer problems. The union represents about 4,000 Verizon workers in the seven-county area around Tampa Bay, he said.

The union's plans for a protest developed before The Tampa Tribune illustrated cases of customer service problems at Verizon last week, Sellers said, and come as "a last resort" after meetings with Verizon managers did not prove satisfactory to the union.

A flier publicizing the event was distributed across the region this morning, and says in part, "It's time to let the company know that we are quality employees and will provide quality service. We will not churn and burn."

The union characterized the picket as "informational," meaning employees aren't walking off the job or blocking workplaces. Rather the union plans pickets for Monday morning at workplaces, before the work day begins.

Broken phone line?

Verizon's largest labor union says the company is taking a week to fix traditional phone lines.
Are you having issues with your phone line? Repairs from Verizon delayed?

Contact the Tribune at: rmullins@tampatrib.com

Reporter Richard Mullins can be reached at (813) 259-7919 or rmullins@tampatrib.com.

Reader Comments

Posted by ( largo2889 ) on April 3, 2008 at 11:43 a.m. ( Suggest removal )

DOUG: YOU'RE MY NEW HERO.

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Posted by ( supernanny80 ) on April 3, 2008 at noon ( Suggest removal )

YOU GO DOUG!!!

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Posted by ( diamondgirl17 ) on April 3, 2008 at 12:06 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

I left verizon because customer service was so horrible. you would be on hold at least an hour to talk to someone in India who could not understand a word you said!

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Posted by ( Craig328 ) on April 3, 2008 at 12:23 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

What makes this funny is that anyone who has ever actually had Verizon for anything knows their "customer service" is simply a synonym for "give-the-customer-the-finger". It's not like simply rolling a company spokesman out who claims their customers get quality service actually changes reality.

Look on any website that rates telecom providers and you'll consistently see Verizon fighting tooth and nail for last place. They're absolutely awful.

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Posted by ( bhnh0907 ) on April 3, 2008 at 12:23 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

My neighbor used to work for Verizon. He would tell me how people would call in for customer support, and then he bascailly had to try and turn the call into a sales call instead of actually trying to fix an issue.

What a load of crap. If I call for a problem, the last thing I need is the call to be turned into a sales call. Fix the problems and STOP being so focused on sales. At what point does it become obnoxious.

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Posted by ( clustermonkey ) on April 3, 2008 at 12:28 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

Wow, I'm absolutely impressed. I completely agree with the union this time. I have been on hold many times to get someone, like diamondgirl17, from India who has no clue about my problems, much less speak English. What time and where is this protest?? Ill stand with them

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Posted by ( 3bullies ) on April 3, 2008 at 12:50 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

I was quite excited to see the folks working on burying the Fios lines coming up my road. Before all this started ignorance was bliss, I was just waiting for them to turn the circuit on to my neighborhood and I was gonna be on the Fios train. Then I read about the broken sales promises, customer service and billing issues and it got me asking around to family, friends and co-workers who were already Fios customers and they confirmed all the stories. Plus they get you locked into a two year contract that if you want off the crazy train you have to pay again for. It's simply not worth it to me to switch. I thought I hated Brighthouse customer service, but at least they don't have me over a barrel with a contract. They all tell me that Fios itself is great, but the headaches that accompany it is NOT worth the picture clarity or internet speeds.

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Posted by ( specialtimes ) on April 3, 2008 at 1 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

why is it that these cable compaines don't have a home office here in our area. Have you ever tried to get the main office of Verizon? I don't think there is one in this whole country. I will say BH has places set around the area that you can go to but Verizon only has tons and tons of wireless Sh** places to suck more of your money.

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Posted by ( GelatinousMonkey ) on April 3, 2008 at 1:01 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

So...many of you had experienced had/heard about bad customer service...so you left or changed...the free market works! I bet if enough of you leave, then they'll HAVE to improve the customer service! Maybe the employees should do the job they get paid to do and let the customers decide what "bad service" is.

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Posted by ( vetdetective ) on April 3, 2008 at 1:03 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

Verizon is worthless. I do not use any of their products.

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Posted by ( rosemadison ) on April 3, 2008 at 1:03 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

I worked for Verizon. It was exactly this....The customer calls for service or a billing question, you MUST offer them TWO different products or get written up. That was the most important part of the call. There were few RULES about how to handle the customer's problem....Just on how much you can sell them. Way to go Local 824!

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Posted by ( McX ) on April 3, 2008 at 1:06 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

Years ago there was a company called "BuilderSquare" they had great products, nice prices; but the WORST customer service I've ever seen. Where are they now? GONE! The same thing nearly happened to HomeDepote; but someone listend. The same MUST be doen to not just Verizon; but to all companies which have these UN-USER frendly press 1, go to 2, etc voice recongantion software. And yes it is true, the repair men are highly trained, want to reapir the problem; but the "Ivory Tower" only looks at cost/sales, and the repair man must do a "X" number of reapir tickets a day of he or she gets in trouble.

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Posted by ( phil ) on April 3, 2008 at 1:07 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

In the pursuit of the mighty dollar we ALL suffer....VONAGE ROCKS!!!

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Posted by ( rodstertodster ) on April 3, 2008 at 1:09 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

you know how to spell SUCKER? Its spelled CONTRACT. If you sign a contract, why do they need customer service? Your locked in sucker.
I have "Bright house". NO CONTRACTS

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Posted by ( cgoch ) on April 3, 2008 at 1:19 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

I must be very unique, in January I called to have the full bundle installed as soon as the lines were run and the flyer was on the door. I called and spoke with a sales rep who brought on a tech to make sure all the sales guy said was correct. I got my deal and the free TV and was scheduled for install. On the day of install the tech showed up in the middle of the window they gave me for him to show, he was in and out of my house in a few hours and I have had no trouble at all. I did have some user issues and when I called the reps were friendly and helpful and didn't try and sell me any additional product. The first bill was a month and a half and I was told in advance it would be, My 2nd bill was exactly what they said it would be as well. I was told it would take 6 to 8 weeks to get my authorization for the free TV and it took 8 weeks almost to the day. I got my TV and did have issues with the TV that Magnavox couldn't fix but when I called Verizon tech support Allen was patient and stayed with me until the problem was fixed. Every thing I was told and every action from every person associated with Verizon was a great experience. If I'm wrong and it wasn't then maybe it was just so much better then Brighthouse that I didn't notice.

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Posted by ( bucswnsb37 ) on April 3, 2008 at 1:30 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

I hear so many complaints about Verizon and how they treat their customers with abuse. This is just part of the problem. I will never use Verizon as my carrier. Verizon business sucks. My employer was paying for 786 bits per second and was only getting 485 bits pers second. Do you want to see a greedy company, look no further. Verizon takes the cake when it comes to fraud. Everyone, Caveat Emptor !!!!Buyer Beware !!!I hope the world sees what they are doing to us.

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Posted by ( BigBoat77 ) on April 3, 2008 at 1:42 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

If I had recorded several of the mishandled, hour-long attempts at help with Verizon Customer Service (over a very simple issue), I could have sold it to Brighthouse Advertising for a lot of money! They are the worst. The slightly better picture with FIOS is hardly worth the ridiculous experiences on their customer service line. Try it and see! I applaude the union workers for their actions!

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Posted by ( Slumdweller ) on April 3, 2008 at 2:41 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

Can you say Bell Atlantic? That's what became Verizon. GTE just gave up the farm, and now you've got the New Jersey folks trying to run things their way. Couldn't wait for my buyout after 35+ years. Let me tell you it was no easier dealing with them from the inside. We did have to deal with non-English speaking offshore contractors that replaced local contractors that previously replaced employees. At least the money payed to the local contractors went back into our local economy (another story, another time).

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Posted by ( nmoore ) on April 3, 2008 at 2:55 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

I think this bruhaha is gonna take customer service from Verizon to a whole new level of quality. Let me
relate Yet another example of poor service: my neighbor told another service horror story about Brighthouse,
after testing his internet speed at a web site called speakeasy.com he found his speed was 1.5 MPS or less
everytime, he had been told it would be 7 MPS. When he complained to BH they said to read the fine print (yet another asterisk!) which said the speed is not guaranteed. After enough complaining they lowered his bill and
gave him free movie channels. Both him and his wife use the internet for some work from home and the kids are
gamers who also use the internet for their homework. The slow speeds became to much for them and they
switched to Verizon. Verizon also does not guarantee their speed but their basic package starts at 10 MPS. My
neighbor says it tests above 10 MPS every time on their FTTP network even during peak activity which is when
BH gets really slow on their shared network. He said this resulted in him and his wife finishing their work
faster and the kids getting their homework done quicker which resulted in more quality family time. You cant
put a price on that. Try the speed tests for yourself and at least get a discount if they are not delivering
the promised service. And watch out for those asterisks!

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Posted by ( bobntpa ) on April 3, 2008 at 2:59 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

They are worst customer service ever! I have been fighting for days to try and get my verizon.net email account unbound from yahoo. What a mess, from tech support to tech support to sorry thats an account option. After 30+ minutes I spoke to a guy last night that said, no problem give me a minute. Then "ok its done it should take about an hour for it to take affect". Thats been right at 20 hours ago and I am going to have to get on the telephone and do it all over again. check out these links they are great. http://verizonmath.blogspot.com/ & http://www.2600.com/news/view/article/322

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Posted by ( getthestorystraight ) on April 3, 2008 at 3:04 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

I know several people that have worked for, or are still employed with the Verizon Corporation. The longevity of these Verizon employees sometimes spans 30 to 40 years of service. It is hard to believe that someone would stay with a company for that many years it they were not compensated with a good rate of pay, benefits, paid vacations, and several paid holidays. If the employees think that they were providing poor service to their customers, why would they continue working for such a bad company? Is it the customer that the employee is concerned about, or is it greed? I understand the company has cut down on overtime and adjusted forces to get work done in the course of a normal work week, instead of working overtime. Maybe we need to wake up some of the folks you see napping in their trucks and ask (this was previously stated in a comment on your site yesterday), because if they are not working overtime than why they are so tired that they have to sleep on the Company’s time.

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Posted by ( pna1234 ) on April 3, 2008 at 3:08 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

To "Slumdweller"....Please don't blame Bell Atlantic..Bell Atlantic had the "Best" customer service #'s of all Bell companies before Verizon came to be.
Blame it on the former "Nynex" company who merged with Bell Atlantic and put "Ivan" in charge of this mess. They were the worst in the nation in customer PSC complaints and it carried over to Verizon after the merger. This is what Nynex and Ivan are used to, providing horrible customer service.
As a employee, I totally agree that customer service has become horrible due to upper management theory and management styles. There is no emphasis on customer service anymore, just to sell, sell, sell.
Even employees who have nothing to do with sales or call centers, have a objective to sell products. If we don't, we miss our objective and it affects our end of year salaries.
I applaud the union, which doesn't have alot of power anymore, in standing up and trying to get these idiots in upper management to recognize that customer service should be the #1 priority in this company. The product Verizon puts out will sell itself.
FIOS will be available soon in my area, and I will NOT be switching over from BH because of all the issues with customer service. If an employee says that, it must be bad.

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Posted by ( mobo308 ) on April 3, 2008 at 3:16 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

Sorry bobntapa you will never get it done by calling customer disservice oh I meant service or tech support. Try calling the Customer Experience Group's Brooke Massey at 813-989-7580. It will be solved in under 8 hours.

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Posted by ( bigdaddy ) on April 3, 2008 at 3:31 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

I have had the worst luck with verizon too. Terrible customer service. They cant even get my name right on my bill. I have called no less then 3 times. On hold for hours on end. Its time we all let them no how we fill. I have several billing issues as well. Currently I am forces to use their service becase they are the only telephone and internet provider. Believe me if I could use a competitor I would. Verizon Sucks!!!!

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Posted by ( jada ) on April 3, 2008 at 3:35 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

So......going on strike is going to help the customer how?

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Posted by ( Conogre47 ) on April 3, 2008 at 3:39 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

I'm almost afraid to post this for fear of being stoned by the Taliban!!!! I just switched BACK to Verizon for what I consider a very important reason, that being that if my power goes out, I can still dial 911 from a hard-wired phone( the type with a cord) and get through. If you have Brighthouse, Knology or such, when the power goes, it all goes. I am disabilty retired and on a fixed income, thus have no real need for a cell phone or the bills that go with them (talk about sales pitches and fees!!!!). As to getting India when you call customer service (and yes, I DO agree that we have far too much outsourcing, particularly in cases such as this), a few weeks back I lost ALL of my phone/cable/internet services through Brighthouse at 2:00am, and while driving to a pay phone the next morning to find out what was going on, ran into a service truck with people working on the telephone poles, only to find that they only spoke Spanish and the best that they could tell me was that "maybe by 5:00 pm" and "upgrades". After fighting through the automated menu, I STILL waitied 45 minutes, only to be disconnected. I re-dialed Brighthouse again, fought through the automated menu and AGAIN waited 45 minutes ( I timed it!) and was told that they were working on updates to the system and would probably have service by 5:00 pm.(I did, but my service was out again the next morning! Same thing!)
Two things- 1) I have a severe spinal injury and had a major heart attack a couple of years ago and feel a LOT more comfortable knowing I can pick up my home phone and dial 911 under almost any circumstances, and 2) after talking to SEVERAL Brighthouse line crews that day that ALL spoke only Spanish (four, to be exact), I have some serious wonders about illegal immigrant labor!!!
Verizon, by the way, was at my house two days later, and had to dig up the undergound connections as they were old and had suffered water damage (lots of severe static), but the technician was extremely polite and helpful, spoke great English, and was neat and clean considering the type work he was doing.
In short, keep in mind that your bundled services are internet telephone connections, and here in hurricane country, that means there's a fair chance that you may not have 911 service when you need it the most!!!! By the way, as to getting a customer service rep in India, that also applies to Capital One Visa accounts and Dell computers (IBM, for those of you that don't know, sold all of their PC end of the business to RED CHINA!!!!)
It's a strange, strange world we live in, Master Jack.

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Posted by ( Slumdweller ) on April 3, 2008 at 4:05 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

PNA,

Bell Atlantic bought out Nynex as I understood that merger, just like GTE got bought out. Doesn't improve the image much for me. You hit the nail right on the head with the problem though. The "Terrible" and all his New England croonies.

To answer your question , "Getthestory..", there probably won't be too many people actually working under the Verizon name for 30 + years. I know like most of the employees prior to Verizon, we gave it our all and when things got bad, we got out. Its hard to start over when you're retirement age, especially these days, so we ate crow for a couple of years until the new retirement plans were announced.

Prior to Verizon, GTE wireline was the name of the game in the Tampa Bay area. The GTE wireless network, which was state of the art, was sold off after Verizon was incooperated. Once the new Verizon management took the reigns (took about 3 years for the dust to settle), most of the 30 + year people (lifers) from both companies jumped out the windows prior to the FIOS network ever being in place.

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Posted by ( lex ) on April 3, 2008 at 4:07 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

I have not had any problems with my Verizon services and am very pleased with the quality of FiOS. If we are talking about quality, then my big issue is with TECO and the amount of times that my power goes off. I get the flashing clock syndrome more times than I can count. Clouds and one lightning bolt and TECO power goes off. Never had such unreliable power service any place that I have lived including when I was with FP&L here in Florida and with other power companies elsewhere.

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Posted by ( mobo308 ) on April 3, 2008 at 4:21 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

For Bobntpa here's another direct number: Susan at 1-877-483-3651. If anyone can help with verizon.net problems she can. Whatever you do don't call or email the e-center. It's a useless waste of time and energy.

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Posted by ( billjones997 ) on April 3, 2008 at 4:27 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

THE CLOCK IS TICKING ON OLE VERIZON IT LOOKS LIKE THEY DANCED TO THE MUSIC AND NOW ITS TIME TO PAY THE FIDDLER!!!! THE CUSTOMERS WILL HAVE THE LAST WORD!!! UPPER MGT...YOUR REIN OF TERROR IS JUST ABOUT OVER BETTER GET YOUR BOYS ALL ON THE SAME PAGE BEFORE MON THE EMPLOYEES WILL BE SPEAKING OUT AND THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABAOUT IT!!!!

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Posted by ( mattbuster ) on April 3, 2008 at 4:36 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

I am a little confused on why the employees would want to picket. Oh I forgot they want to due less and make more money. People of Tampa these union reps make at least 20 dollars an hour so if they picket i would hope they feel like idiots. There are plenty of people that would love to take there jobs and be happy to represent verizon. Did i mention 20 an hour. Thats good money in todays market. God bless verizon and the great union president Doug sellers. Way to go Doug Sellers

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Posted by ( mobo308 ) on April 3, 2008 at 4:37 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

Verizon spokesperson Sharon Shaffer has either been drinking too much Kool Aid or she doesn't have Verizon service. Doug, tell us where we can go to join the pickets.

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Posted by ( tarselgland ) on April 3, 2008 at 4:41 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

my neighbor works for verizon and he tells me that none of the employees(including lower management) understands the direction that upper management is taking the company formerly known as gte...thru attrition,there are 50% less copper field techs this year vs a year ago which equates to a need to work overtime to stay caught-up on the work load....they were indeed working overtime up untill about a month ago,and thus keeping up with the load...however,at that time,upper management deemed overtime unnecessary...folks, here is the simple equation***if the field tech is allowed to work,then your phone gets fixed in a timely manner****if he is not allowed, then you have to wait weeks!!!by the way,where is that $ going that is saved on labor costs???do ya think possibly into upper managements pockets....they sure are not giving rebates to the lowly copper customer!!!!

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Posted by ( mattbuster ) on April 3, 2008 at 4:52 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

tarselgland... I to have a few friends that are techs for verizon and they are always complaining but they are also complaining about the 100,000 plus a year there making doing easy work. They want to make more and becasue there uneducated. Get to work you clowns. brighthouse is no better their customer service is 10 times worse.

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Posted by ( tarselgland ) on April 3, 2008 at 5:13 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

hey mattbuster, it was nice to read your grammatically correct post...

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Posted by ( cnalpt ) on April 3, 2008 at 5:27 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

Actually, I'm a FIOS customer and my internet connection is lightning fast, my TV picture 100% digital and fantastic, and my long distance phone service is un-matched. Verizon services are high quality. Now, if they could only get my bill straightened out...just for one month, I'd be totally impressed!

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Posted by ( godzilla ) on April 3, 2008 at 5:34 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

I have FIOS, it's a better technical product than cable, but Verizon's customer service does suck. Verizon poured billions into FIOS, basically they bet the company. They need to follow up that investment with one in customer support. Their field techs are generally good. The call center people are the weak link, a lot are good, but some of them are the dumbest human beings walking this planet.

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Posted by ( billjones997 ) on April 3, 2008 at 5:37 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

HEY MATTBUSTER YOU R SO WORNG TRY GETTING YOUR LIPS OFF MGT @SS!!!! THEY WANT WHAT IS BEST FOR THE CUSTOMER NOT THEMSELVES!!! YOU MSUT NOT BE ABLE READ!!!! YOUR BOYS WOULD LIKE THAT HOPE THEY KICK YOUR @SS!!!!

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Posted by ( terryjnj ) on April 3, 2008 at 5:57 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

I had Fios installed in early December.
Went back to cable last week. Veizon Customer torture kept me on hold anytime I called about the free tv and when I tried to cancel it was a 2 hour process. I also got rid of my cell phone service with them. Maybe if everyone took $250.00 per month business from them, maybe serice would improve. Ps. Did anyone ever get the free tv?

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Posted by ( Snoopy ) on April 3, 2008 at 5:58 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

Doug Sellars is a jerk.. only hurting your own people... It's like McDonald's employees standing oustide with signs that say, our meat is tainted... OK yeah, that's gonna make customers drive to another fast food joint.

Once again, the union is protecting the losers who sleep in their trucks and screw the company AND the customer.

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Posted by ( anyone ) on April 3, 2008 at 8:10 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

Well it's getting worse folks. Check out the problems with security.
http://tinyurl.com/2xw6rg
http://tinyurl.com/35dcxz

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Posted by ( bigirish76 ) on April 3, 2008 at 8:10 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

I am a FiOS installer, and first and foremost I want to respond to mattbuster. You are clueless buddy!! This picketing is labeled informational for two reasons, first to inform the public that we as organized employees, ARE sensitive to the problems that you, the customers are facing! Second, it is to inform management, that we will not sit around and keep coming in day after day "catching the rounds" from upset customers as we knock on thier front door...It is embarrassing to have to constantly make excuses for the way this company has handled thier new product! So is it about money? Absolutely not, actually sir, we are locked into a 5 yr contract that has already been negotiated.(salary included) To respond, or better inform some others who have posted thier opinions on here, trust me, and I think that I can speak for most of our membership...we are feeling this situation from both ends. Most of us still having the mentality of taking care of the customer till the end,(former GTE)..That has been taken from us with productivity requirements and micromanagement. That in turn leaves us somewhat helpless at the door. "Churn and Burn" has become the motto. Which plays right into a contract employee, that alot of you as customers will experience. They are being payed per job, leaving quality behind! Hence most of the local problems. And as for us we come to your door having to clean up the mess left behind, all while being held to strict productivity measures. I am sure some of you have not been versed on your remotes, how your router works, or maybe even the trouble isolation ports on your ONT. All of these and more are required of us. Yet again the embarrassment continues!
As for the customer service portion, I will definantly agree to most of the feedback, I have family members that consistantly call me because they dont want to talk to the IVR system, or wait on hold for no help! Here is a tidbit on backdoor numbers...We as technicians get the same numbers the customers do to fix problems...interesting isn't it, So when you see a FiOS technician in his van, dont be as uneducated as "SNOOPY" was to trying to point out that we sleep in our vans, because more than likely we are on hold trying to correct a situation for a customer!

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Posted by ( qotfw ) on April 3, 2008 at 8:20 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

Dear getthestorystraight,

Wow, 99% of the comments are from customers or employees with real experiences with Verizon. Apparently you are either Verizon management, related to management or sleeping with management. Nice try ;)

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Posted by ( donttazemebro ) on April 3, 2008 at 8:35 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

employee !!! way to go, show the public the truth, seems like your boss is hiding it.. I believe the story about people being transferred to the sales side. I am sick of getting stuff in mail trying to sell me fios.
now the truth is out. LOOK OUT VERIZON. put a fork in them THEIR DONE>.... well done.....

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Posted by ( clustermonkey ) on April 3, 2008 at 8:37 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

OKay, even though I'm still impressed with the workers and unions with Verizon, my husband told me that we have Bright House for our home phone and internet. I dunno, I just pay the bills, he sets up the services. We only have our cell phones through Verizon. I'm still in support of the argument that they have.

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Posted by ( bigirish76 ) on April 3, 2008 at 8:43 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

One more thing I forgot to mention...this $20 an hour, mattbuster was referring too, sir, we are doing this on our time, not the companies. So your statement does not apply! And actually if you must know, it $24 and some change. We honestly should ask for a raise, having to deal with organisms like you out in the public! Get informed guy! And uneducated??? When is the last time you have used your spellcheck? Overall, most of the customers that I come in contact with are very accepting of any situation, that may arise during an install. We as union members pride ourselves in the work that we do. And have for over a hundred years! This is what separates us from contract employees, which by the way looks like the way this company wants to head. So do your family and friends a favor...when thier installer shows up at the door...make sure they are union!!! Or send them packing. Actually, have them request a union employee during the ordering process!

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Posted by ( margaritagirl ) on April 3, 2008 at 8:49 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

Employees need their jobs, try looking at the economy and tell them to find another job. The informational picket is designed to let management know that the employees deserve the chance to help the customer. These employees are striving for quality not quantity. However, they are faced with the threat of disclipline for spending too much time with a customer. The employees want to do a good job. Management just needs to allow that to happen. Hourly employees are thankful for their benefits, their vacation, and pay. They thank the union every day for making sure that is all possible. This is all about the customer. This is about being allowed to do their job to best of their ability.

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Posted by ( coppertechX ) on April 3, 2008 at 9 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

The reason the employees are picketing is show that the employees want to help YOU THE CUSTOMER. At this point management is blaming the employees for the bad service, they want to help you but they are not allowed to. There is a saying at Verizon that is going around "If it don't make dollars, it don't make sense!" that is the theory management works on. So on Monday when you see employees in red and black shirts holding signs that say "Honk for good service", blow your horn loud enough for them to hear in New York.
P.S. Only 29 days left for Mr. Surinder & Mr. DePhillips.

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Posted by ( littlejon69 ) on April 3, 2008 at 9:18 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

I work for verizon as well as a lot of other people that are posting comments on here. i would like to address getthestorystraight's comment.i don't really think that we feel as if we are providing poor service to our customer's. we provide the best service possible in the time that we are alotted to do the job.greed isn't a factor in our day to day work. no one is greedy to get harassed on a daily basis on how long it takes to get out of the workcenter when you are trying to get supplies amongst 100 + employees doing the same thing.we stay with the company because a majority of us like our jobs, you have good & bad everywhere you work, for us, it seems it is escalated to a level never seen before. . next time you see a verizon technician in his/her truck, you should go up to them & see exactly what they are doing before you post a comment about something you have no idea about. to back up bigirish76's statement, we do operate under a negotiated contract. yes we have benefits, vactions just like most other employees who work for large corporations. is that a sin ? we are dedicated to our customer's and our careers, that's why we stay working for verizon. i have faith that if we stick together & stay steadfast to our belief's we will prevail in our fight to wake up the upper management that is making these policies on productivity to once again truly put the customer first.to address jada, no one is going on strike, just an informational picket, you should read the whole story b4 posting a comment.i hope that we as employees have been able to shed some light on what we {local 824} are all about. i extend an invitation to anyone who would like to show some support for us & you the customer on monday 4-7-08 between 6:30am-7:30am.

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Posted by ( marriedtofios ) on April 3, 2008 at 9:29 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

Dear mattbuster...you're an idiot! I am married to a Verizon tech for seven years now, and I promise you, I have never balanced our checkbook on a 100,000 dollar income. It's actually a little more than half of that, but I never get to see him because he is out working trying his hardest to please hillbillies like you, but under horrible management.We have two babies that some nights don't even get to see him due to his required overtime hours.A family will put up with alot for good benefits!
So as you get home every night at 5:30, and are able to have quality time with your family(who I am sure you work very hard for)think of us. It's their job and they do the best they can under these circumstances. And as far as your comment on the employees being uneducated....I would love to see you try and pass the numerous courses they do in order to keep their position. Just some food for thought for you...my husband has 8 years military experience in communications, so I would love for you two to compare IQ scores. Have a nice night...my verizon tech husband is still not home and dinner is waiting.

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Posted by ( marriedtofios ) on April 3, 2008 at 9:37 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

PS... No offense to the "hillbillies", I have some fiddle-playing at my family reunions too! It was just a figure of speech, I'm sure you understand if you read my large prior comment.

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Posted by ( ozzythewarrior ) on April 3, 2008 at 10:02 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

I have worked for companies that thier customer service policies are so off that it makes the employee look retarded. And customers think its you and not the company

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Posted by ( fedupvztech ) on April 3, 2008 at 10:12 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

I am a verizon FIOS installer. I have been installing FIOS since "day one". Back then we were able to spend as much time as needed to make sure everything was perfect on your install. The only thing that mattered was that the job was done correctly. We were to do everything in our power to "WOW" the coustomer. Now we live in a different world, we are allowed to spend as little time as possible to get it working and move on! Believe me quality on your install is NOT a priority of management. However for me, my only concern is to install your service as if I were installing it in my home. We get called several timers a day if we dont make certain "triggers". Lastly, to the idiot that said we sleep in our trucks. Until 2 weeks ago, we were forced to work 6 days a week, 10-14 hrs a day!!! It got so bad that my 8 yr old son asked my wife "when is daddy coming to visit us again".

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Posted by ( BTP ) on April 3, 2008 at 10:16 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

It's a free market. Customers have the choice to go somewhere else if they are unhappy with Verizon service. In many cases, Verizon employees' hands are tied.

Are there problems? Absolutely. But much of the information posted earlier has been by people who don't know what the "F" they are talking about. Much of it is not true.

Many of the outside techs are REQUIRED to work six days a week - 70+ hours per week. They do get OT but many of them don't want to work that many hours and don't care about the OT. Many studies have shown that employees are not productive when they work that many hours. So support the union. They need more employees to do the work that is on the schdules.

As for the problems, many of them are software related issues. The tools that the phone reps and field techs are given are lousy. How would you like to be a service rep but not able to enter an order to fix a problem? When you enter an order, it goes to an error queue and never flows to completion. Or a previous error blocks you from entering a new order. Or how would you like to be a field tech and have to sit on hold in the same IVR queue as a customer when trying to fix a customer problem?

I have worked for GTE/Verizon for 15+ years. I can tell you that 90% of the problems have arisen since the merger with Bell Atlantic/NYNEX. The problems lay squarely on the shoulders of Ivan and Shaygan - not with the union or the Verizon employees.

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Posted by ( mattbuster ) on April 3, 2008 at 10:21 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

marriedtofios - first let me start by saying thank you to your husband for serving this great country and protecting us from the real enemies. As for IQ I don’t think so. I don’t even know what that means. Ha Ha I am sorry to offend anyone on previous messages but to call out grammar, come on! I can find an error in everyone’s messages. No one is saying that the techs, customer service Reps are not working hard. We all know that customer service is a job that few can handle. The real problem is that if you are going to work for a company you need to put your full amount of energy into it. People complain no matter what company they call, people say their customer service is terrible. Why? Because they didn’t receive anything for free. Sure verizon has its problems but in order for verizon to get through this its employees need stand by them. I know the employees are picketing on their own time and they have the right. I guess what I am trying to say is that verizon is a good company with great employees. If this doesn’t get better they can always out source to another country where Americans loose jobs and service is a bigger issue. Best of luck to verizon and their employees. No I am not affiliated with verizon , I just feel as though everyone is trying to bring them down. All this was probably started by an Brighthouse associate. Best of luck

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Posted by ( verizon23 ) on April 3, 2008 at 10:46 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

Lets set a few things straight. I am an ACTIVE Verizon employee and not a former disgruntled one. Everyone has been correct by stating that Verizon does pay very well and has awesome benefits so most of these so called former employees that you’ve been hearing from probably aren’t working for Verizon because they were part of the problem and not the solution. I will be honest and say Verizon is extremely tough on their employees when it comes to both customer service and sales. I wouldn’t say Verizon is solely sales driven by far. We are required on all of our calls to follow set guidelines. However, 5 of the 10 objectives are all about customer service while only 1 of the 10 refers to sales. You do the math.

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Posted by ( verizon23 ) on April 3, 2008 at 10:52 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

With that out of the way I have to ask “Are you serious when you say Brighthouse is better?” Please don’t make me laugh. I am 1 of few true blue Floridians. I remember when Brighthouse was Time Warner. They got such a bad rep that they were forced to change their name to Brighthouse just to save face. Different name same old terrible service/products if you ask me. And are we really crying about contracts? You might not be aware but Brighthouse is privately owned and not a regulated company. In laymen terms BRIGHTHOUSE CAN DO/CHARGE WHATEVER THEY WANT!!! They don’t have to guarantee you any price for any amount of time. While Verizon’s contracts do just that, guarantee your rate. So sorry but I’m not jumping on this bandwagon. I will continue to call Verizon’s first-rate customer service agents located in sunny Tampa, FL (for those of you who missed the enormous Verizon skyscrapers and claim to always be speaking to India).Verizon cant give free service to their employees, so dollar for dollar I will pay for my stunning FIOS services any day over Outhouse. OOPS, I meant Brighthouse.

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Posted by ( anyone ) on April 3, 2008 at 11:12 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

getthestorystraight wrote
"If the employees think that they were providing poor service to their customers, why would they continue working for such a bad company?"

People work for the company because jobs are hard to find and they pay a decent wage for people with not a lot of education, Like the prisoners in the halfway house who are paid $600.00 per week. And the out sourced jobs to India.

"Is it the customer that the employee is concerned about, or is it greed?"

No it's more like thay have house payments and mouths to feed.

"Maybe we need to wake up some of the folks you see napping in their trucks and ask (this was previously stated in a comment on your site yesterday), because if they are not working overtime than why they are so tired that they have to sleep on the Company’s time."

They make work by the job not the hour, they are called sub-contractors

The big problem is customer service. They lie to get you to sign up and you do get 30 days free but the customer service problems start after the 30 day period. After dealing with them I will never in my life use a Verizon service again. And if they get a new name it will take a very long time before I trusted them again.

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Posted by ( anyone ) on April 3, 2008 at 11:40 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

Conogre47

I won't stone you but I will educate you. New cell phones have a gps locator in case of an emergency. Unless you talk on the phone for hours you probably can find a plan that would be cheaper than your landline.
During the hurricanes when landlines went out my cell worked. And with a cell phone you can go where ever you want. If you end up in a jam you can call whoever you want from where ever you are. Ask the people in your neighborhood who they use, you might be pleasantly surprised.

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Posted by ( anyone ) on April 3, 2008 at 11:52 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

mattbuster said
"I am a little confused on why the employees would want to picket. Oh I forgot they want to due less and make more money."

I think it has more to do with the lying they have to do.

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Posted by ( MrSmiley ) on April 4, 2008 at 1:50 a.m. ( Suggest removal )

To all of you that have made negative comments about verizon employees: Please get your facts straight. I work at verizon, and I love my job. I love going out every day pleasing the customers. It makes my day to go to someones home and provide them with outstanding customer service. I live to please the customer, and put a smile on their face. I am not "sleeping in my van", or earning "$100,000 plus" and doing "easy work". Trying hard to please the customer is my goal, and my job. I am continually pressured by management to abandon the customers that I work for, and not provide the quality service that the customers pay for. I have never asked for "more pay, and less work", only: please let me fix the problem right the first time. Picketing outside the workcenters has nothing to do with McDonnalds as "Snoopy" stated. It isn't even a correct analogy. We are picketing because we are fed-up with Verizon treating people like crap. We have the ability to picket, because of the Union.
Working in customer service is not like working on an assembly line. What I mean is: you can't just speed things up a little, and expect the same quality of work. You can't speed up customer service. It is like going into a crowded resturant, and expecting the same quality of service you would get if you were the only customer in the place.
Verizon has been "Speeding things up a little" for years now. Verizon speeds things up about every six months in my department. They call it "Management Objectives". Well, it has come to a point where the employees cannot meet the management objectives, and still serve their real boss... the customer. That is who we work for everyday, and that is who we serve. Please beep your horn when you see us picketing, because it is YOU the customer we are picketing for.

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Posted by ( slow2anger ) on April 4, 2008 at 7:14 a.m. ( Suggest removal )

I have been reading comments for a while and noticed no matter the topic, there are those pro and those against the subject. If the heading had been: "Union Plans to Picket Brighthouse" the same or similar comments would have been posted! Sometimes I think people need a way to vent and this is their opportunity. Brighthouse is no better or worse in many ways; however, my experience with both shows because BH does not have contracts, they are able to increase your cost as will. In our deed restricted community, because Verizon came in and laid fios...BH lowered our monthly fee by `1/2!!!! I have Verizon as my cell phone provider - love my phone, love my plan...hate the customer service. My home phone is with BH...love the monthly fee $57.00 for phone, internet, and cable...hate the phone reception and the slowness of the internet some days. This is NOT a perfect world...we as people will complain when it rains and when the sun shines. This is just the opportunity, provided by TBO, to do just that! VENT!!

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Posted by ( LL ) on April 4, 2008 at 8:47 a.m. ( Suggest removal )

I have used Verizon wireless for over 2 years now, and it has been satisfactory but, from what I have read in these comments section, I won’t be using the FIOS service for a landline or television,
Verizon demands you sign a contract for 1-2years, and when the service is poor or non- existent they demand by contract to be paid, unlike other service companies that do a poor job and you simply fire them, Brighthouse has the right idea no contracts, if the service is bad you simply go elsewhere for that service it should be the same for Verizon, if there is no consequence for poor service and you have to continually pay for poor service why should they change, why does the consumer have to pay 200.00 to fire poor service companies such as Verizon. Remember the bottom line is money, the days of the customer being first are about gone.

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Posted by ( donna69 ) on April 4, 2008 at 8:59 a.m. ( Suggest removal )

My husband and I have Verizon customers for YEARS but I will stand by these workers if they tell me where. I must say I'm not very happy with verizon. Yes I'm pleased with the service but their billing department SUCKS...I'm still waiting for my Bill to be correct. Since Dec. I have paid over $1000.00 or more to verizon for this GREAT service.Tell me please where ya'll will be and I'm there.

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Posted by ( mim ) on April 4, 2008 at 1:50 p.m.

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Posted by ( Melody07 ) on April 4, 2008 at 2:11 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

I have a few friends who work at Verizon so when I was looking for a career change I applied. I passed all of their testing but didn't go to work there. During the interview I was grilled on SALES. I have 20+ yrs of strong customer service experience but they only cared about sales. My friends tell me that if you don't sell to almost every caller you will be looking for another job.
I can understand wanting to inform the customer of the products & services that are available. When a customer needs help then your priority is to HELP them.
I support the union in their efforts and would be willing to walk with a sign also. WHERE and WHEN? I'll bring donuts!

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Posted by ( mim ) on April 4, 2008 at 2:48 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

Wow Melody07! A freind of mine DID work as a V. customer service phone rep for computers and said that they would only give you a small amount of time, (they would listen in), for you to troubleshoot the problem ...then it was your butt on the line! We all know that sometimes it takes a while to troubleshoot a service over the phone.....especially if the customer happens to be an 80 year old lady. They would show no mercy!! Boy am I glad I went back to Brighthouse. I love my Roadrunner! Save me some donuts, I'll save you some coffee!!!

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Posted by ( mim ) on April 4, 2008 at 2:55 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

SORRY.. I think I posted my last comment twice..somebody here asked me what "recumbent" meant. LOL!

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Posted by ( mobo308 ) on April 4, 2008 at 4:44 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

Can anyone tell us where we can go to join this protest on Monday?

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Posted by ( ibewcares ) on April 4, 2008 at 6:07 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

TO ALL THE CUSTOMERS THAT WANT TO JOIN US IN THIS PICKET. If you live in tampa or close to there you can join many people in front of the city center.(THE VERIZON GLASS HOUSE) downtown. For those who want to join in other locations, most of the pickets will be held in front of the work centers scattered all over the cental florida region. These work centers are where the vans are lined up and the workers depart from and return to every day. The picket will start in most places at around 6:30 a.m. until about 7:30 a.m when we have to go to work. It may take more than just 1 day, so keep up with the members for more info. THANK YOU CUSTOMERS for your support for we the local IBEW 824 will give you ours.

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Posted by ( lillbitt7 ) on April 4, 2008 at 6:42 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

At this point I have read everything above my post, WOW, a lot of misinformed critics out there toward the employees. I do have great benefits and pay, thanks to my union who keeps these greedy corporate thieves from taking my pay. If you don't belive me, just ask you nearest management personal. Yes they make less than us and have worse benefits. Further-more I do everything possible when I am at a customer location to help, they pay my bills and support my family. But if people understood how much stress Verizon puts on there employees to produce an unrealistic number or be fired you would understand what we are going through. We have leadership in position who have never performed these duties. It was not that way before. Someone that was respected was promoted and guided us to success. Not anymore, its dictatorship at it worst. Thanks Doug Sellers for help us protect our customer and our future by address the customer first, maybe then we can change our work environment. PS. Sorry to all those customer who have experienced poor service, remember it is you who can help change our work environment by speaking out. Please don't abuse the employees, we have to follow the rules. I have a motto...THE BEST WAY TO GET RIDE OF A BAD IDEA IS TO FOLLOW IT TO THE T.

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Posted by ( ibewrocks ) on April 4, 2008 at 11:09 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

Thank you Ibewcares, but the downtown pickett will be held in front of the eax building which is located at 610 Zack Street beginning 7am.

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Posted by ( VerizonFree ) on April 4, 2008 at 11:30 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

Verizon has turned into a sick and rabbid dog that needs to be put down. The craft employees are being victimized daily by management's sadistic treatment which includes: an intensely negative unhealthy environment of fear of job loss every day. Which included "camping on one's line" not to assure quality contacts for the customer, but instead to make sure all eleven products were being offered in a systematic manner. I was caught only offering 8 of the 11 products that were mandatory to offer. During each contact the customer was very satisfied and the issue was completely resolved, yet due to being monitored not offering 2 more products in the systematic process called the "Whole House" I was terminated after nearly a decade of service, with an impeccable attendance record. And professional demenure showing each customer how much they were valued, despite Verizon attitudes and management actions to the contrary. Managements imposed quotas that were completely unreasonable and demoralizing. And not surprisingly only a very small minority actually were able to make their imposed numbers. I was a customer sales solution representative that provided the very best customer service under the idea of the Golden Rule, to treat others how you would like to be treated.

Verizon23 is one of many management stooges spewing the company line, say something enough times and eventually people will believe it, just like the Nazi's. It was stated that:
"so called former employees that you’ve been hearing from probably aren’t working for Verizon because they were part of the problem and not the solution."
Yet the "problems" are still there making all the decisions, one decision that was made was to get rid of customer service professionals in lieu of the high pressure sales annoyances. Then another decision to route calls out of country. Call tech support and get a tech in Mexico or some other third world country. In closing, superior technology will not out weigh substandard customer service.

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Posted by ( ibewcares ) on April 5, 2008 at 7:12 a.m. ( Suggest removal )

Thank you ibewrocks. I stand corrected. I made a mistake there. Customers it will be in front of the eax building , located at 610 zach street as far as the downtown picket as well as in front of the work centers.Have a great weekend and we'll see yall there

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Posted by ( littlejon69 ) on April 5, 2008 at 10:24 a.m. ( Suggest removal )

for anyone living in east tampa & the brandon area, our picket will be at 7855 causeway blvd, that's between 78th st. & hwy. 301. i have read all of the comments above mine as well, i would to thank those employees who work in the field for standing up & voicing there concerns,as well as all of the customer's that have shown thier support, we need everyone to do the same, i believe we have reached a point in this "big corporate" way of doing business, that if we don't stand now, they drive our employment rate right thru the floor. not only union workers,but everyday hard working people. we as union employees do make a good wage, have good benefits, but we and i mean the employees & union members who have made sacrifices,put in the work to get what we have. make no mistake, we have to fight for what we have, do you honestly think verizon would willingly give it away, i think their actions in the past year have shown otherwise.the best way i have found to deal with these everyday problems we have is to inform every customer i come in contact with about our issues, which truthfully is theirs as well. some of the other locations where they will be picketing, plant city,alexander st next to the tampa electric yard,in tampa, 131st ave & 15th st.,anderson rd near waters ave, carrolwood @ zambito & erlich rd.we look forward to seeing as many customers out there at these locations as well as our fellow craft brothers & sisters. keep this in mind, if you think that these issues don't affect you because you don't attend the meetings or participate in the rallys & other events, it will be you as well as the rest of us that will suffer. " YOU NEED TO BE INVOLVED".

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Posted by ( iceman2008 ) on April 6, 2008 at 11:42 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

I am a Verizon rep in NJ and I applaud what Doug and Local 827 is doing tommrrow! I read this article from one of my co-workers this past friday and I had to respond and come to this website. I work in a call center and customer service is no where near in the Verizon vocabulary. Customers have a lot of questions about why they were transferred or upset about service getting shut off, etc. I would like to explain and investigate fully on calls like this, but oh wait, I can't, I have only 6 minutes to talk to the customer. (YES SIX MINUTES) If I do go over the six minutes, I get gig'd for it with serious reprecussions. The reprecussions is called a developmental plan. It's similar or almost the same as someone posted here earlier. So, while I won't be able to be down there in Tampa with my Union fellow brothers and sisters and of course our CUSTOMERS tommrrow, I will be beeping my horn on my way to work in spirit.

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Posted by ( gman044 ) on April 7, 2008 at 2:05 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

I left the Verizon call center a few months ago because I was tired of not being able to actually help customers. What management fails to understand or care about is that in order to get to the ROOT CAUSE of the customer's problem...it takes more than 7 minutes. If calls went too long, the call center reps get harrassed by their know-nothing supervisors who would have no idea how to do the job that their employees are doing. I was paid very well and the benefits were great...no issues there....but I could not work for a company that treated their customers so poorly. My father asked me if he should switch all of his services from BH to VZ and I honestly had to tell him no. That meant that I did not believe in the company that I worked for or the products that I was selling....I had to get out.

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Posted by ( ttommiejo ) on April 20, 2008 at 5:07 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

The late Johnny Carson was right about one thing. "You Get What You Pay For." From where i've have seen so far & from other people's experiences that comment seems to true to it's word. After all from people I know they say that Verizon's service customer & other wise is nothing but a bunch of crap. Thus the expression "You Get What You Pay For." Meaning you pay for crap you get crap simple as that. If these articles from tbo.com did anything besides stirring up a hornets nest it's got upper management circling the wagons & as for the battle between Verizon & Bright House from what I've seen so far Verizon is being the butt of Bright House's jokes.

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