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Published: April 8, 2008
Updated: 04/08/2008 09:49 am
TAMPA - Anthony Girit has won thousands of dollars in Wal-Mart gift cards, digital cameras and other prizes for his performance since joining Verizon's downtown customer call center seven months ago.
Last month he won $2,140 in bonuses, he says, but none of those perks came from answering customers' questions or untangling their bills.
"All that came from pushing customers to buy things," Girit said. "I understand every company says, 'Let's make money.' But that's the job of a marketing department, not service. I'm supposed to be there to help them, the customer."
Once, he said, he was disciplined for not selling broadband Internet service to someone with no computer. Managers try to keep customer calls short, he said, listen in on calls and send pop-up messages onto his computer screen such as "Why aren't you selling them? Get off the phone."
Customers may be calling Verizon for help, but Girit and more than a dozen other Verizon employees interviewed describe conflicting pressures at work. On one side, customers call to have problems fixed. On the other side, managers can discipline employees who can't quickly transform those calls into sales.
Pressure from both sources seems to rise monthly, they said, as do sales "threshold" quotas employees must meet to receive bonuses and avoid discipline.
This kind of pressure is becoming more common, say call center experts, especially in markets such as telecommunications and banking, two industries that have recently deregulated and can cross-promote more services.
Verizon executives said they aim to fix customer problems first with each call, then sell new products, and they do compensate workers for selling well.
"Customer service means a tremendous amount to me, personally," said Suri Surinder, Verizon's regional president. "One of my first jobs was as a taxi driver in New York City, so I learned service from the ground up."
In such a competitive environment, any company must meet profit goals and shareholder expectations, Surinder said.
The risk, customer service experts say, is the fate of Verizon's massive investment across the Tampa Bay region. Verizon will spend $1 billion in this area by the time it completes a state-of-the-art FiOS fiber-optic network.
Tampa and Dallas suburb Keller, Texas, are the first cities in the nation to receive FiOS from Verizon, so many eyes in the telecommunications world watch what happens here.
Verizon has won top marks from organizations, such as Consumer Reports, for its technology and service. That goodwill with customers can flourish or evaporate quickly, say service experts, and it can hinge on a company's ability to fix customer problems well enough to prompt a recommendation to a friend.
Prizes Only For 'Great Sales'
In its call centers, where Verizon fields customer issues of any sort, Verizon is clear about the rewards for selling well. It has handed out dozens of gift cards and has online catalogs where employees can redeem reward points for prizes like fondue makers. Verizon often has daily contests to see who can sell the most DSL lines in an hour. This year, a top prize is a trip to the Atlantis resort in the Bahamas.
Dawn Livingston, a shop steward with the IBEW local union at Verizon, said she has won trips, including one to the Mall of America near Minneapolis. "It was very cool," she said. "Verizon got us a hotel room right there so we could drop off our shopping bags and rest."
"But that stuff is only for people who get great sales," not for fixing customer problems, she said. "I could have 15 customers in a row say 'She's doing a great job,' and not get a trip anywhere."
The company is also clear about disciplining workers who don't sell enough.
For example, employees said customer calls are timed and count toward an employee's average call handling time, regardless of the customer's issues. Employees said they need to average no more than 11 minutes with a customer. Managers dispatch "coaches" to stand behind poor-selling workers and issue disciplinary "Work Sheets."
Girit said managers disciplined him 13 times in 7 months for not trying to sell a long list of Verizon products.
"I once got written up for not trying to sell TV to an 80-something-year-old woman who called to change her phone number," Girit said. "And she was in a nursing home, moving from one room to another, and couldn't even get our TV. I'm not going to offer something like that."
Even more frustrating, he said, is that he can't get his own Verizon bill fixed. "I'm a FiOS customer myself, and I have to call every month because the bill is wrong. I'm on the phone with these people for an hour every time I call - and I am 'these people.'"
Frank Leonetti, an 8-month employee at Verizon, said that "even if people are calling, trying to lower their bills, I get in trouble for not trying to sell them more things and make their bill higher. People call me crying with problems they couldn't get fixed in six, seven months. ... Then managers will sit down next to you, plug into your line to listen, and say, 'Why aren't you offering them this, that?'"
Kevin Bailey, a two-year call center employee, said, "Even if people call with a $1,500 messed-up bill trying to cancel, I have to try selling them more things. If I don't, I can get fired."
Complaints Are Few, Surinder Says
Verizon workers and customers picketed many of the company's locations across the area Monday, claiming Verizon is putting excessive pressure on call center workers to sell products, rather than fix customer problems.
Surinder acknowledges that sales quotas, or "thresholds," have been rising recently, and ultimately, "this is a business and we have to deliver growth in earnings per share."
Surinder said he feels bad that any customer would have a poor experience, but he said the vast majority of customers are satisfied.
Verizon has received just 50 complaints to a FiOS problem hot line, Surinder said, and 69 billing complaints in January and February. That's out of several hundred thousand new FiOS customers. Out of 100,000 monthly customer calls, about 80 percent are resolved in that first call, he said.
During the same time period, 66 people filed complaints with Florida's attorney general, according to state data.
Some of the customer frustration, Surinder said, is a result of not using Verizon's computer systems properly. About 50 percent now hit "0," rather than enter a "phone tree" that routes calls to workers with the right skills, Surinder said. Hitting "0" puts the call into circulation for any worker.
Verizon Adding Call Center Workers
To improve service in Tampa, the company is adding 78 call center workers to its ranks of 460, extending weekday hours and adding hours on Saturdays, and live screeners who answer calls early and direct them to experts. A new system will call customers back, rather than keep them on hold.
Verizon also is rolling out new "Personal Account Managers," a designated advocate that FiOS customers can call directly to get help.
Recently, Verizon has been dealing with customer complaints such as too-elusive discounts, shortages of HDTV set-top boxes and the free televisions the company offered as an incentive to enroll. Also, the time Verizon is taking to fix traditional copper phone lines has lengthened.
Those problems illustrate the risk to Verizon, said Christine Kozlosky, vice president of The Ascent Group, a management consulting firm in Kite, Ga., that studies customer service.
Traditional phone companies used to separate sales and service; now more companies merge them, she said.
Companies need to monitor things like average customer call time to identify any employees who may need more training, she said. But it's a delicate balance, she said, that each employee should judge on each call - fixing a customer's problem, then selling new products if appropriate.
"There are many areas, like Tampa, that have companies moving in to markets with a lot of competition," she said. "They may be trying to blend service and sales and economize, but people who don't like that are going to go someplace else, another cable or telephone provider."
Reporter Richard Mullins can be reached at (813) 259-7919 or rmullins@tampatrib.com.
Reader Comments
Posted by ( Mr_Comment ) on April 8, 2008 at 2:13 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
The only reason they have 50 complaints is probably because they don't know the number to call, or haven't complained enough for someone to give it to them. They also don't tell you they also want employees to finish their sales on their own time, breaks and lunch, because your sales pitch must meet their alotted time per customer, and entering it isn't allowed.
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Posted by ( cs_1 ) on April 8, 2008 at 8:56 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
OR that you as an employee are told NOT to give them the number to complain to! Heaven forbid they capture a call where you give the customer that number!
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Posted by ( frankland7 ) on April 8, 2008 at 9:28 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
I have been a customer of Verizon FIOS since last May. I subscribe to FIOS TV, Internet, and telephone, along with numerous movie packages, Home Media DVR, etc. I have had continous problems with both the service and the billing. Whenever a technician has an appointment to come out, they rarely arrive during the time window indicated (they show up 2-6 hours BEFORE the beginning of the time window, and then call to ask why I am not home). This issue, or not showing up at all, has occurred 6 times out of the last 7 appointments! Since May, I have only gone a month without issues one time. I am on my 3rd DVR box. I have had issues ranging from installers disconnecting my line to hook it up to someone else (2 times); On-Demand TV getting kicked off when the phone rings, DVR freeze-ups, loss of DVR recordings, missed DVR recordings, Internet and On-Demand programming going down (5 or 6 times). I am averaging a technician visit to my home about once per month or more, and the billing STILL is wrong every single month (they charge me for service that is payed for by the condo association and then credit it back the next month, and they over-charge for telephone and Internet). It is the worst company that I have ever dealt with.
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Posted by ( tc ) on April 8, 2008 at 9:37 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
As some may have seen in my previous postings, I truly dislike the Union and its lackies..They promote BAD SERVICE..
But 50, 60 complaints per month????? Are you kidding me? This is where a disconnect takes place??
Just read the comments posted to other stories....Our customer are not happy and trying to pacify the customer with these figures is not the answer!! I also agree that perhaps these figures are very under reported.
Here is a suggestion, because I get the whole EPS and stock value issue..(however as you know, the street slams our stock when high up decisions are made by senior leaders....IE..Wireless $99 plan-Yes I know they are also short sighted)
Anyway, continue with the quota and remove the requirement to bridge on every call. This way gives the reps a little flexibility when to sell, yet they still have a quota to meet...
Average call length, there has to been time given to an employee who wants to resolve a customer's issue....without a limit!!!! Now if they are talking nonsense and personal thing as they like to do, well bring down the hammer to that person....
I dislike the UNION and what they are doing to our customer, however those of us that want this company to succeed must act differently !!!!
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Posted by ( zarkmud ) on April 8, 2008 at 9:57 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
Verizon has no service...it just does not exist.
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Posted by ( kimbo ) on April 8, 2008 at 10:11 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
Verison why is my bill wrong, every time it comes its a fight. It is time to switch to another company!
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Posted by ( tbochitchat ) on April 8, 2008 at 10:25 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
I worked as a coach for a verizon DSL billing center and am a FIOS customer. The President's answer is political "bla bla bla" The pressure on the associates is incredibly high!! It's designed to build up a system that's broken, which causes more call ins to get the problem corrected and therefore more sales?? TRUTH IS: DSL is losing $$ and they're trying to keep this division alive. Verizon CANNOT get their bills correct on DSL or FIOS and customers call with the same problems mo. after mo. I have had the same experience. I call every month to get my bill corrected. My friend recently signed with FIOS and is having the same problem - another friend calls every mo. for over a year now!!!
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Posted by ( bhodge221 ) on April 8, 2008 at 10:26 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
These accusations are so on target; I’ve experienced this first hand as a consumer. Calling into customer service at Verizon is literally absurd, also the amount of knowledge that these representative have is certainly not what it once was, I was on the phone with Verizon for 1 hour and 23 minutes and I have the cell phone bill to prove it. I’ve also sent an email detailing my experience regarding this call directly to Verizon however I never received a response back (huge surprise), also have the email and tracking for support. See big company’s like this think they can sacrifice customer service to save money. They also depend on their name to lead people to believe that what they say is the truth when however they are misleading the public and once people become more educated on how these big businesses tend to work, only then will there be change. With today’s economy and the state that we have found ourselves in (trying to say a buck) this is what’s driving company’s like this who once had a great reputation to out source to say money and the only ones that suffer is us the consumer.
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Posted by ( tbochitchat ) on April 8, 2008 at 10:32 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
I should also add that departments are dinged by the $$ amount credited -- even if it's a billing error. Each reps tracked on this - that's why it's a fight!
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Posted by ( Charlie ) on April 8, 2008 at 10:34 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
What qualifies a NY Cab Driver to become a regional president for a major telecommunications company? Maybe that's the disconnect here.
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Posted by ( willets2006 ) on April 8, 2008 at 10:54 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
I Worked with this company on a door to door basic for one day and they want you to knock doors until 9:00 pm every day of the week and weekends and if you don't have a certain ammount of sales you have to go back to the office for more training, They do not want you to accept not interested when you talk to a customer. You have a meeting every day in the morning and then they assign you an area to work which may be 50 to 100 miles away at your expense. It was a very bad experience for me and I would not reccomend verizon fios to any one.
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Posted by ( candyman0874 ) on April 8, 2008 at 11:04 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
I used to work for 20/20 which holds a contract from Verizon Fios. I was even told to walk away from customers who had problems. They would direct me to give them the call center number. Mind you I wasn't a tech or installer but I still did my best to make sure I would get them the help they needed. I ended up leaving dur to an arguement with management about being forceful with customers and potential customers. Billing issues are normal with Verizon. and service issues are also. I do have to say that I have had less problems with Verizon than Brighthouse.
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Posted by ( shawn110975 ) on April 8, 2008 at 11:08 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
I got the triple play package,, for the advertised 109 a month,,, got my first bill it was over 268 bucks,,, and i have had the service for 3-4 months now and i still havnt recieved my FREE 19inch TV,,,, i have called and called they keep saying they will send the flyer with a internet link with my code so i can choose the item i want,, i want the TV thats why i signed up but nothing I think I will be going to bright house for 43 dollars a month,, for the same thing!! verizon is the worst,,, while all those guys are following you around while your on the phone why dont they get them in call center and help the customer,, not fly helicoptors and cranes walking around with laptops,,, how dumb are those commercials
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Posted by ( shawn110975 ) on April 8, 2008 at 11:18 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
WHERES MY FREE HD TV???????? False advertising
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Posted by ( StanleyGoodspeed ) on April 8, 2008 at 11:22 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
We were Verizon customers for 6 years and upgraded our Verizon phone and dsl to the Fios. Installer was great, polite and well trained. TV picture is great, and high speed internet is good. To get our $99 per month bundle package we were told to visit a link online and "apply" for the bundled discount. The link didn't work. Not at all. Made several attempts to visit the site. After 3 months of incorrect bills and my wife ending up in tears while on the phone with their "customer service" they finally fixed our billing. About a week later we received a letter from Verizon that stated that we had not correctly applied for our bundle discount and we were denied for the $99 per month deal. It took 4 months to receive the letter because they somehow printed Newark, NJ 07102 below Zephyrhills, FL 33541. WTF?? I feel they intentionally sent the letter with a mis-printed address so that we would not be informed that we were denied the bundle discount and therefore they could purposly over charge us. Verizon is a BAIT AND SWITCH master. Thieves and liars. We are switching as soon as our year is up.
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Posted by ( fred8222 ) on April 8, 2008 at 11:22 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
This is the reason I have had on going billing issues for the last 8 months. I have been triple charged and no one can find out where my money went. Compound that with the bank charges for overdrafts and we're in the thousands of dollars. No one can tell me where my money went. They are too busy selling things!!
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Posted by ( RGW ) on April 8, 2008 at 11:37 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
While installing FiOS next door, Verizon screwed up the ground on my DSL line making it inoperable. Time to fix, six days. An hour after the Verizon tech left, Bright House was there to replace the DSL with a much faster cable connection plus VIOP telephone service, and both at less cost than the DSL.
With that kind of service, Verizon can kiss its profits goodbye.
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Posted by ( mprice12 ) on April 8, 2008 at 11:40 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
I called Verizon to remove my long distance service after they started charging for non-use. I was routed around several times and placed on hold forever. Finally (rep #4), they supposedly did what I asked, but I noticed that it was on my bill again the following month. I called again and I got someone who was helpful and cancelled it. They also credited my $2 back. The girl was very polite. I figured the others were playing a shell game with me hoping I'd hang up. My ex worked for AOL and they are just as bad if not worse.. so it is a nation wide problem.
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Posted by ( commentcava ) on April 8, 2008 at 11:45 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
people, its phone and cable tv, not a connection to a pacemaker or breathing apparatus....if you hate the service, turn it off, otherwise, pay up. it is just that simple.
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Posted by ( chrisl319 ) on April 8, 2008 at 11:51 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
I used to work for Sprint over in the Orlando area, and it was the exact same thing. My supervisor came over to 'coach' me one time because I didn't offer DSL to some old guy in the Villages who was complaining that his $12/mo. phone bill was too much. They'd preach service, service, service in the meetings, but all they really cared about your sales numbers.
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Posted by ( BlueJar ) on April 8, 2008 at 12:06 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
My favorite part of the article was where Surinder stated that it was the fault of the customer for pressing "0" instead of the the correct number...yeah, THAT'S the problem.The customer dialed wrong and that's the excuse for YOUR poor customer service.
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Posted by ( joe2555 ) on April 8, 2008 at 12:17 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Are you aware of BVT? BVT is software that Verizon uses when a customer calls. B=Billing V=Invoice T=Treatment. The T for treatment generates a code, depending on how you pay your bill. The beter you are at that the better they are in treatng you.
Also:
Why is a company allowed to FORCE you to maintain a service contract for two yers, or fine you heavily if you leave - but - NOT provie the service? I cannot stand that they get away with this and our LEGISLATURES should make this practice ILLEGAL....
What ever happened to being able to take your business elsewhere (without paying penalties) if the company you are dealing with can't/won't provide what they said they would?
I can hardly wait for my contract to expire and then I am OUT from under this company forever....
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Posted by ( USFBull ) on April 8, 2008 at 12:21 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
I have been in a dispute with Verizon Online for over three years. They have been charging me money for an online service that was cancelled 4 years ago! I have called about 20 times over the course of three years, and to no avail. No one could ever help me with my specific problem, and those who were sympathetic to my issue did not have the authority to do anything about it. I recently received a notice from their attorneys, or bulldogs, in hopes of collecting the money they are not owed. PLEASE CONSIDER THIS AN OFFICIAL COMPLAINT, AND ADD IT TO YOUR FALSE INFORMATION!
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Posted by ( Tampagirl ) on April 8, 2008 at 12:25 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Verizon BITES BIG TIME!!!!With there treatment of employees and customer service....Surinder should go back to INDIA AND RUN THE CALL CENTER THERE....
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Posted by ( mobo308 ) on April 8, 2008 at 12:29 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
I doubt seriously there are only 50 complaints per month-heck there are at least that many posts every time an article comes out. The issue with not being able to connect to the link to accept the TOS for the bundle is common although in our case it was because the TOS had supposedly been accepted by the time we went online and oh yes they were accepted at 114.99 per month instead of 94.99 per month and we didn't qualify for the TV because they said we had only signed up for one year.
I'll bet if the union and customers picketed Verizon President Alan Ciamporcero's home (easy to find) instead of Verizon offices they would clear up many of these issues very quickly.
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Posted by ( bigpete ) on April 8, 2008 at 12:30 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
They SUCK!!! I couldn't even get them on the phone waiting hrs and e-mails didn't work, wrote a letter and still kept getting billed when we wanted it to stop. We were almost ready to go back to them at one point untill having trouble getting thru to customer service. They can't handle the business.
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Posted by ( garyhim ) on April 8, 2008 at 12:32 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
From the Story:
"Tampa and Dallas suburb Keller, Texas, are the first cities in the nation to receive FiOS from Verizon, so many eyes in the telecommunications world watch what happens here."
I live on Long Island New York, and we have had FIOS for years. If Verizon told you this fact, then no wonder they are all screwed up, they don't even know where they provide service. If they didn't tell you this, then shame on the Trib for not fact checking. BTW - Verizon is just as screwed up here with FIOS as they are in the Bay Area.
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Posted by ( not4me ) on April 8, 2008 at 12:38 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
the best thing for Surinder is to go ahead a resign!!! and take your side kick with ya. always blaming the customer & employees.. "Some of the customer frustration, Surinder said, is a result of not using Verizon's computer systems properly. About 50 percent now hit "0," rather than enter a "phone tree" that routes calls to workers with the right skills, Surinder said. Hitting "0" puts the call into circulation for any worker."
WAY TO GO SURINDER!!!!
cause after May 1st there may not be a choice!!
THIS WAS NOT LIKE THIS UNTILL SURINDER CAME ALONG!!
SO WHAT ARE YOU SAYING SURINDER???
CUSTOMERS ARE ???????
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Posted by ( wmgerald518 ) on April 8, 2008 at 12:42 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
fred8222 Based on my personal and company experiences with Verizon it probably is not that they can't tell you where your money went but that they won't tell you as your overcharges went into their coffers.
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Posted by ( Tampagirl ) on April 8, 2008 at 12:46 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
My husband was on his way to work there one time and car pooling with another employee and they had an accident downtown. Everybody in the car except the driver had to run to the call center because they would of been written up for being late. The poor girl had to wait until it was all over and she was still marked late, she was more worried about if she would be written up. They do not care about there employees at all..
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Posted by ( usf2008 ) on April 8, 2008 at 12:50 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
I worked in the Verizon Call center for a year and a half. And I expirienced first hand what this guy is going through. I was reprimanded almost daily because I wouldnt sell a product to someone who didnt need it. I especially wouldnt sell it to the customer if they were just calling in for tech support, people would be calling in crying because they were "slammed" which means at some point they called into a Verizon office and the product was ordered in their name without their permission. These reps do this to get those nice prizes and in the end it effects the ones that really do want to help. Im glad to see there are other people that feel that selling isnt the only important thing.
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Posted by ( Tampagirl ) on April 8, 2008 at 12:52 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
not4me this was going on before Surinder...My husband work there eight years ago and it was the same way..All about sell sell sell sell.. & screw the customer push the product is all that matters to them and all it ever will matter.....
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Posted by ( J_bufford ) on April 8, 2008 at 12:55 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
This was the ABSOLUTE WORSE PLACE I EVER WORKED!!!!!!!!!!! I appreciate the opportunity of working there to know exactly what NOT to look for in an employer! Their tactics were the worse! Dateline or MSNBC should do an expose' on them to see how terrible the "customer service" is! It should be called "consumer hi-jacking"! I had the worse management/coaching staff one could ever have! Coaching? What's that? My coaches name was John Frankenberry and he was terrible! I wouldn't call him a coach but a "Corrections Officer" he reminds you of a crooked cop, doing any and everything to pad HIS pockets! Screw the customer, its about HIS BONUS. Rhonda Britto tried to make it look like she cared about employees, but I would say 98% of the staff there didn't! They weren't all bad, but if you dont have the courage to hustle senior citizens and lie to your grandmother to get a sale, in the words of Donald Trump.... YOU'RE FIRED!!!!! THE COMPANY SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO TREAT CUSTOMERS LIKE THAT, LET ALONE THE EMPLOYEES! When I started their in training, we had 17 people, 2 months out of class, there were only 3, and only 1 person quit, the rest were fired!The company is heartless, gutless, and just flat out nasty towards employees and the Union reps are spineless! I have more to say I really do, but its time for lunch!
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Posted by ( Tampagirl ) on April 8, 2008 at 1:01 p.m.
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Posted by ( Tampagirl ) on April 8, 2008 at 1:14 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
I don't understand why my last post was deleted it was the truth.. What Is the Problem I guess this is to much of a heated debate on how terrible Verizon is to the employees and customers???
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Posted by ( mikiec ) on April 8, 2008 at 1:25 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Verizon has received just 50 complaints to a FiOS problem hot line.
What is this FIOS problem hot line they speak of. I wish they would publish it, so I could call it, rather than the 1-888-553-1553 number. I don'r know where they come up with the 50 complaint number. I have called several times, so it leads me to believe they are not tracking calls correctly.
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Posted by ( CLD ) on April 8, 2008 at 1:27 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
We have NO VERIZON SERVICES and couldn't be happier. Bright House has been fantastic for us the last 5 years and their customer service is outstanding. We have no reason to switch and never will!
Companies that pull this crap need to be boycotted.
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Posted by ( tazntpa ) on April 8, 2008 at 1:35 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Hey "joe2555" you got it wrong - BVT is B=Billing, V=VOUCHER, T=Treatment. Oh and by the way - BVT has been gone for over a year dude! If you're going to post, get your facts right and current.
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Posted by ( Tampagirl ) on April 8, 2008 at 1:44 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Hey Rhonda Britto really did not care she was just as BAD as The Rest...Trust Me On This!!! If you did not kiss up to her you learned the hard way...
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Posted by ( tazntpa ) on April 8, 2008 at 1:47 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
"Some of the customer frustration, Surinder said, is a result of not using Verizon's computer systems properly. About 50 percent now hit "0," rather than enter a "phone tree" that routes calls to workers with the right skills, Surinder said. Hitting "0" puts the call into circulation for any worker."
I see the problem now - it's the Customer's fault according to Surinder! That's EXACTLY why Verizon has such poor Customer Service - it's clearly the Customers fault. Has Surinder ever been trapped in Verizon's "Phone Tree" hell? Why do you think we're hitting "0".
Yeah, I can see what Verizon Management's perception is is about the problem! Blame the Customer - good one Surinder. Bob Elek should be going sleepless after comments like that.
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Posted by ( Fotoz ) on April 8, 2008 at 1:53 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Free TV? What a scam! I ordered the $109.99 special with the free TV. My first bill was for $180.00 and it will take at least 3 months to get the TV. Yet, they are charging me each month for the 2nd box that was necessary for the... "Free TV". Yikes... what a scam!
Verizon is not customer oriented and is notorious for unresolvable billing errors. We all know the reputation of NYC taxi drivers... "You don't like the way I drive... Get outta my cab".
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Posted by ( donttreadonme12 ) on April 8, 2008 at 2:33 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
The service stinks more than His NYC Cab
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Posted by ( Getem ) on April 8, 2008 at 2:36 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Jbufford - right on and congratulations for coming forward and telling it like it is. Corporate Amercia - bottom line - profit. Messengers: Middle Management or people who are dumb enough to think their butt is safe. Why don't some of current or ex Verizon employees give out the names of the people responsible (on a local level) for all the problems. Where exactly does the President reside? Where does Surinder reside? And here I was being naive enough to think that the difference between companies these days was based on "customer service". Go ahead employees and take all of your bonuses and gifts for betraying people who are really just like you. It must boggle the mind to know once you are on the outside looking in, you will be bombarded with the same crap you are doing now. Wouldn't a union walk-out hurt Verizon? Let the little middle managers handle their own quotas!
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Posted by ( MsFit ) on April 8, 2008 at 2:39 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Recently I had a house built and decided to go with Verizon for my full service.
I was staying a friends till the completion and they had Verizon Vios for their computer, phone and internet service. I was impressed so I decided to subscribe.
My house was suppose to be completed in January, but as goes it wasn't on schedule. I called when they had the 19" free HD tv, and was told that my service would be installed January 21st. Not Verizon's fault that I didn't have my C/O and power so they could complete their service. They said to call and reschedule when I had power.
Finally got my C/O and power mid March. I was sent bills from Verizon for service in January thru to March, but I didn't have the service during that period.
I called to get it all rescheduled and my bill corrected March 24th. No problem with that, and they said that they would be out on the 30th (saturday) to install the service. I waited as ususal all day and didn't even recieve a phone call to let me know that they would have to reschedule.
Oh wait I forgot, I don't have a phone because they haven't installed it. Long story short...I do have a cell phone and still don't have the service from Verizon.
I guess that I'll have to go to an alternative.
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Posted by ( tazzie1303 ) on April 8, 2008 at 2:51 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
I cant believe that all the pressure is for sales. obviously they vios is going to get there money by overbilling. I signed up for vios for two weeks before canceling there service. That was the first of january, 2008. I am still getting billed for equipment that was returned plus a monthly charge for service that was cancelled. <My wife spent six hours on the phone with texas, phonix, alabama or where ever yesterday without results. If there is ever a class action suit, i will surley join and participate.
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Posted by ( NotADoc123 ) on April 8, 2008 at 3:24 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Well Getem, I'm not advocating this but if a person were looking for Alan Ciamporcero President of Verizon FL for instance, you could always look on the Hillsborough County Property Appraisers site and do a search by owner name. Again I'm not advocating this but it could work.
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Posted by ( fuzzedwardo ) on April 8, 2008 at 3:35 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
The only thing Verizon looks at are numbers,their mgt are the accountants. they only want to satisfy wall street, but wall street see's thru all the smoke, just look at the stock price. Ivan cashed in stock options of 85,000 shares a month ago for only a 50 cent per share profit, what does that tell you, he doesn't have faith in the company he runs..
Quality went out with GTE, All mgt has been replaced with people that can't find their a.. with both hands, and the Union, all they have managed to do is get further and further in the company's pocket, they don't care about anything except their cushy jobs and if the employee's don't change that regime they, the workers there better get used to being treated like S..., talk about Morons running the hall. If I didn't work there, I would not have one service thru this company. I've stated that to upper mgt about the problems with the billing dept only to be told that my experience is not the norm, Bull, I guess now that the Bone Heads that run this company managed to make the frontpage, maybe now try to think about service instead of their numbers so that their bonus looks good, and Suri, maybe you need to go back to New York and go back to driving a cab,I understand they need more cabbies like you up there and take a few of the new Supvs with you.
You have managed to run a good company into the ground. Oh and lets not forget about Chuck Lee another Clown that only feathered his bed at the expense of the employees. Chuckie there is a thing called Karma, and you'll get yours someday.
I have been told that I have a bad attitude, it only took the take over of bell atalantic (merger) to get it there.
Every mgt employee that knew anything about the business has been let go so they can bring in newer mgt at less pay . Now we deal with Idiots that have college degrees but no knowledge of the business. What this company needs is a good old fashion strike so that the company can get their mgt in there to do the job so they can see for themselves that they don't know a thing about the job, but the Union would never call for that.
The lower Mgt at this company really should get jobs at the Hillsboro county sheriffs office, they would be great in the booking department since their style of managing is thru intimidation, and for all of the people that are having trouble with their bill, get the supvs name in charge of that dept,ask to speak to them and tell them to either get your bill corrected or to cancel all of your services, see how fast they get it corrected. Make sure you get their name and a call back phone number for them.
George Gage, We really miss you!!!!!
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Posted by ( NotADoc123 ) on April 8, 2008 at 3:41 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
For MsFit and others in the Tampa Bay area who are having problems you can call the Customer Experience Group at 813-989-7580 and speak to a person. This group was developed to solve customer's problems and they have the authority and access to different groups (installation, billing, promotions) to get problems solved without long waits on the regular customer servicce lines.
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Posted by ( musicman ) on April 8, 2008 at 4:25 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Better yet call the Public Service Commission in Tallahassee. That is the only way I got their attention and canceled my service after 10 recorded hrs. on the phone with Verizon
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Posted by ( Noneya2 ) on April 8, 2008 at 4:36 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Hey Surinder people dial "0" because they want to speak to a living, breathing human being. They do not want to go through a bunch of menus and then put on hold or disconnected. I have Brighthouse for phone, internet and HDTV. I could not be happier. BTW I don't work for them. Their service is superior. The transition to their phone service was totally seamless. Not only do I have more features, it cost six dollars less a month and I have free long distance. The final straw with Verizon was when I looked over my phone bill and saw some hidden charges on there that I really made no sense. I think one of them was something to do with long distance access. Now I save money and have free long distance. I will say the coverage I have with my Verizon cell phone is the best. I live in Plant City and have great coverage.
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Posted by ( billjones997 ) on April 8, 2008 at 4:49 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
CUTOMERS HERE IS THE NUMBER TO CUTOMER RELATIONS 1-800-483-7988 CALL THEM CAUSE THE COMPLAINT NUMBER THAT WAS MENTIONED NO WAY THAT IS RIGHT!!!
No one wants to hear a sob story about driving a taxi. Why don’t you stop admit you got it all jacked up and hire more people to do the job stop being a tyrant!!! Your hench men call every day to repair and try to FORCE the supervisors to get them to close out more tickets with out dispatch. WOW THAT IS CUSTOMER FRENDILY!!! Can someone audit this company tickets so they see that the employees are getting the crap beat out of them and that this is the truth!!!. Verizon got called to the carpet by the city council and none of them will go let the employees do their job!!!! Fire the jerks that are rude and let the good employees do their job. Verizon won the fight but will not win the war this is bigger than all of them and when the truth hits it will not be good for any of you. This is just not in Tampa it is nation wide with the tyrant mentality!!!! Sooner or later the names will start flying and people are going to have to start answering question that will not be good!!! Better stop the bleeding while you can!!! Two weeks has gone by and there have been no changes in customers service or repair!! Don’t be fooled by this lip service!!
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Posted by ( logan ) on April 8, 2008 at 4:52 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
So Mr. Surinder obviously does not read the Tampa Tribune or comments concerning Verizon. It must be our mistake for dialing 0?? I have listened to the maze of push 1, push 2, push 3 and never been offered a "Hot Line". In a previous article Verizon said that they did not have a problem because not enough people complained to the city. No, I did not call the city with my invoicing problems, I called Verizon about 15 times over 4 months to try to get things resolved. There were more than 50 complaints on the comment page of this news paper after the last article on Verizon. Do the Verizon executives work in a cave where they cannot see, hear or read what is going on around them?
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Posted by ( Dana1994 ) on April 8, 2008 at 5:47 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Well I just got off the phone with cust serv to correct my bill once again it has been wrong for the last 5 mths. No problem they adjust it everytime. Although the billing system at Verizon Sucks, I rather deal with that than go back to Brighthouse and have to deal with tech visiting my house twice a week to fix my problems I switched to Verizon about 2 years right when Fios was in my neighborhood and I LOVE IT. Never could get Slowrunner to work worth anything and as far as the TV service from Brighthouse the worst picture, would freeze could never get Video on demand and BH internet phone never worked because slowrunner would not work Digital phone what a joke. Verizon installed there service and It has been wonderful, Yes the Billing Sucks but the product is the best hands down DVR works super. Fios internet is 20 over 5 actually works at 22.3 over 4.632 excellent. Maybe they can dump there management and let the people do there job and help us and let salespeople do what they need to do.
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Posted by ( tarselgland ) on April 8, 2008 at 7:56 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
You can call 863-688-5333 in lakeland and ask for Shawn Stevens. He will know how to contact the higher-ups!HE IS VERY HELPFUL!
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Posted by ( iworktheretoo ) on April 8, 2008 at 8:09 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
I am also an employee at the Tampa call center. I literally dread going to work every day...I am in the process of seeking employment elsewhere and I am not concerned about the pay cut that I will probably take due to the current economy. (I recently interviewed for a position with an hourly pay of $8 less than what I currently make...because I realize, apparently unlike Verizon, that humans tend to stay and show loyalty to a company that treats and services them well. I have a strong customer service background, and am partly responsible for my misery at Verizon, due to the fact that it was drummed into our heads during training that this was in fact a 'sales' job... however, I would have never imagined the type of environment that I currently work in. Bottom line... Until someone in upper management realizes that sales may create a new customer, but service retains that customer... the company will continue to decline... It should be obvious to a company as large as Verizon that it doesn't matter if you sign up a large number of new customers, if those same customers, as well as old customers are cancelling their service. Haven't they heard the saying that a customer tells more people about their unhappiness when they experience service that is unsatisfactory as compared to showering words of praise about a good experience? Look at the posts on just this site alone... Quality not Quantity!
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Posted by ( tarselgland ) on April 8, 2008 at 9:02 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Management at Verizon does not believe that all of the negative posts are genuine.They think that most of these are written by Brighthouse employees trying to wreck Verizon's reputation.All of you irate Verizon customers should call Tribune reporter Richard Mullins at (813)259-7919 so he can do a story on all of you.That is what will get Verizon's corporate attention!
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Posted by ( yankeejib ) on April 8, 2008 at 9:54 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Wow Verizon! I knew I should wait a year and see if you delivered. Good call. Where are all the great fans who love your service so much. Not.
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Posted by ( osohappy ) on April 8, 2008 at 10:41 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Call the PSC? LOL, who do you think pays the PSC officals bills? Do you really think all the people that fly in on campaign trails pay their bills? NOT!! This is how Verizon keeps them In The Pocket!! Now that should be investigated!!
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Posted by ( anyone ) on April 8, 2008 at 11:28 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Surinder is clueless. People press 0 because they are desperate to talk to someone who can make the bill right. If not Verizon will put a bad mark on your credit report. I never had one bad mark on my credit report for over 25 years. Thanks Verizon I have one now. The funny thing is as hard as it is to get a loan I got one and when the bank saw my credit report and Verizon was on it they laughed and said AOL did it alot way back, they knew I was right and Verizon was wrong. OH by the way isn't AOL free now? Good luck Suri where ever you land I will remember your name forever and never use a company you are associated with. Google is your friend folks.
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Posted by ( dragonspit ) on April 9, 2008 at 12:27 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
I'm an employee at a Verizon call center but not for Florida for California. It's no different here. Some of us happen to come across this arcticle today and we're thrilled to see something being done by employees and customers alike. With out the support of our union we are unable to make the same statement. All of this article is true not only do you have quotas and minumins and handling time but also if we don't offer the right way (the way manangment wants us to say it) we get written up for that too. When we voice our opinon or that's not right for the customer we are basicly told we need to appreciate our job or maybe we should go elsewhere. Well I got news for Verizon if all the employees that felt that way left then who would answer your phone calls Verzion? We're suppose to be here for the customer and we want to help but Verizon has forgotten that it's employees and customers are people not a number
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Posted by ( VzTechII ) on April 9, 2008 at 1:30 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
Whine...Sniffle....Complain...And Cry if you must. All of you call center types that are crying and complaining you need to stop. Because, you are the first line of customer contact that customers have with Verizon. If management is being too hard on you to produce sales numbers, then do something about it. Get everyone in your call center and get organized with some form of worker action. Get creative. But whatever you do please stop jerking the customers around. I am a field tech and myself and my coworkers get to clean up the mess that you call center people create. Oh, yeah I too have sales numbers I have to make. Imagine trying to sell DSL to some one that has already been asked if they want DSL everytime the call the call center. STOP CRYING!!! You get to hide behind the phone and don't deal with customers one-on-one, and if a customer gets under your skin you have the option of sending them back into the call que for the wonderful merry-go-round that you are all so famous for!!
Sincerely
A Vz Tech II
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Posted by ( fios_not_vios ) on April 9, 2008 at 2:29 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
tazzie1303 and MsFit.... its FiOS, not Vios..... the problem is mostly the customers, you guys dont even know the name of the service you're getting and yet you want to blame the company.... half you people dont even know how to use a remote and call and complain like its verizons fault because you cant operate a remote correctly. Verizon should start selling training sessions to you people and get you more familiar w/ this stuff. FiOS is a far better product than any company can provide. If most of you people had any idea how to use a computer of find the address field in internet explorer you wouldnt have to make a call to Verizon..... 95% of the calls are due to people not knowing how to use your own equipment....... and if you people were any bit educated you would know that yeah, your cordless phone isnt going to work in the event of a power failure.... and no it never worked that way when you had cable either..... wow people come on now.
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Posted by ( tarselgland ) on April 9, 2008 at 6:17 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
This is just a note to all of you California Verizon employees;THANKS for your posts! Keep them coming in! Thanks also goes out to Richard Mullins of the Tampa Tribune for doing these pieces! Don't let up because upper management, or shall i say upper "miss-management' is starting to feel the heat!!!!
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Posted by ( Texican ) on April 9, 2008 at 7:46 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
I work Verizon directory assistance. On the one hand they say "provide the customer with great service so they will come back." and on the other hand they say "we are not here to find every listing for every customer - just follow the SOP as you were trained!" It all comes down to money. If the listing is not found AND the customer disputes the report, the customer is directed to a "Service associate" who will follow the SOP and probably provide the same not found report. Otherwise, the customer can either accept the lack of a number or call back and try again. If they do not mention that they are calling back because of a lack of the number or because they were given the wrong number, they do not get credit and are charged again.
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Posted by ( VzVAemployee ) on April 9, 2008 at 8:55 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
Lol VzTechII you are whacked! If I had a penny for everytime I got a customer calling asking where the technician was that never showed up I could quit and retire. I will not even get into how some technicians just flat out refuse to do the job they are paid for.
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Posted by ( puddy ) on April 9, 2008 at 9:03 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
Perhaps one of "u posters" should spend more time with your "wife" or you too will be looking for new service. You know who u are.
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Posted by ( phre4ker ) on April 9, 2008 at 9:06 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
That's what call centers do. That's why I quit working for sprint.
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Posted by ( cs_1 ) on April 9, 2008 at 9:13 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
VzTechll........I personally do not put the customer back into the ivru when they get under my skin. I do my best to resolve the customers issues.
What do you mean we don't deal with the customer one on one? I work in the repair center. We are the first one they call EVERYTIME! Mostly because we put hours of access on the ticket and a tech went out before they even open and left a door hanger or called them asking why they weren't there?? We now have to place two can be reached numbers on every ticket because the tech didn't bother to call the first number. That is when the customer said they were home all day with the cell phne sitting right next to them and no one ever called.
I am not saying you are doing this but it is being done.
You are upset because they are asked about DSL everytime they call in...HELLO????? That is mandatory along with refer-a-friend.
How about ALL union members standing up as a group and fighting the company for what is right FOR ALL!!!!!
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Posted by ( Shortbus901 ) on April 9, 2008 at 9:15 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
Verizon is 0/5 for correct bills right now and most calls take about an hour just to get the problem fixed each month (my first bill took ~3 hours!). The new account manager thing they started last month works a little better in terms of hold time but they still can't get the problems fixed. I'm about ready to pay the cancellation fee and be done with it if the next bill is incorrect. If not I'll probably stick it out for the rest of the contract but at the end of that I'm out.
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Posted by ( Pjwrites ) on April 9, 2008 at 10:33 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
I have had more than my fair share of problems with Verizon and have only one thing to say to their ownership/management/shareholders: You need to remember what "customer service" really means and then maybe - maybe - you'll survive your competitors and actually EARN your gross profits.
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Posted by ( Right_On ) on April 9, 2008 at 10:34 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
The worst part is you don't even have to be a verizon customer to have them ruin your service. In a 9 day period while they where digging to lay their FIOs line they took out our neighnorhood cable service 3 times... when they did it while working in front of my house I went outside to tell them about it and no one spoke english. Later that day a supervisor showed up and and just laughed and said to call Brighthouse. I did call and BH was out the same day and dug the line up (Verizon had buried it again just to make life as hard as possible) and promptly had run new line and had my services back. I asked the BH tech how often they had to repair their lines after verizon was out digging and he just shook his head and said " it never ends". Real ethical Verizon... sabotage the competition whenever possible and use contracts as threats to keep customers !!!
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Posted by ( djtomr941 ) on April 9, 2008 at 10:41 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
I suggest that everyone who has a problem file a complaint with the Florida PSC and the Florida Attorney General's office.
http://www.psc.state.fl.us/consumers/complaints/ And click on Telecommunications.
For the Florida Attorney General's office, call 850-414-3300 or email ag.mccollum@myfloridalegal.com
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Posted by ( djtomr941 ) on April 9, 2008 at 10:43 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
Verizon uses illegal immigrants to dig up their lines. None of them speak English. But Verizon uses contractors, so what can happen to them?
Well they should ask Wal-Mart that used contractors that used illegals. Wal-Mart executives went to jail.
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Posted by ( anyone ) on April 9, 2008 at 11:03 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
I found an interesting link on how not to pay early termination fees.
http://tiny.cc/vlNYQ
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Posted by ( GetSmart ) on April 9, 2008 at 11:10 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
djtomr941 you are dead on correct
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Posted by ( crysntrin ) on April 9, 2008 at 11:17 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
i agree mr comment
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Posted by ( crysntrin ) on April 9, 2008 at 11:25 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
i thought i was the only one. verizon does suck
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Posted by ( BLACK_HAL0 ) on April 9, 2008 at 11:37 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
Holy Smokes! I was considering ordering the FiOS deal, but after this and the other articles on The Consumerist, forget it. I'll stick with Brighthouse. At least when there have been issues, they have been resolved satifactorily.
Christ Verizon, get it together, your nearing an employee revolt by the sounds of it.
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Posted by ( mobo308 ) on April 9, 2008 at 11:44 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
Just one more time for the record. The PSC does not have any regulatory authority over Verizon when it comes to fiber service. Calling or emailing(they have a complaint form on their site) the Attorney General will eventually make a difference. In the meantime if you want to get your problem solved without going into a que and waiting hours you can call Brooke Massey of the Customer Experience group. She DOES have the authority to do something about billing and other service issues and she WILL call you back as often as needed.
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Posted by ( 6d2 ) on April 9, 2008 at 11:46 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
People quit calling them and make the first call to the BBB... they get enough complaints about them and they will have to answer for the bad service..
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Posted by ( 5thGenTampaBay ) on April 9, 2008 at 12:09 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Richard's service was just disconnected. More Verizon no-service exposure is needed until it hurts enough they do something about it.
i love my verizon service when it works (and it usually does), but if i have problems, anxiety sets in at the thought of having to deal with "customer service".
Brighthouse was always a good experience.... too bad they dont offer FiOS to the house and have comparable priced BW
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Posted by ( rsk1111 ) on April 9, 2008 at 12:56 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
One of the disgruntled Verizon employees gave me the number of corporate complaints. You get a real live person! EVERYBODY SHOULD CALL THIS NUMBER AND NOT BOTHER WITH THE OTHER ONES...800-483-7988 #3
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Posted by ( tparich ) on April 9, 2008 at 1:23 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
I worked in an airline call center. Was very similar to what is described here.
I am a very happy and satisfied Fios (phone, internet, tv) customer.
What few problems I have had were immediately rectified.
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Posted by ( mikiec ) on April 9, 2008 at 1:35 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
About complaining to the BBB. The BBB does not have any authority to do anything. When you complain, they mail a copy to the company you have complained about. If that company does not choose to do anything about the complaint, the BBB can not force them to do anything. your complaint then goes into a file that the BBB keeps on the comany. Also, there are a lot of companies who don't belong to the BBB.
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Posted by ( dinoman22 ) on April 9, 2008 at 1:48 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
I too live in area of FIOS im scared to death to even try it because of the billing woes.
Fios internet is ONLY available, no bundles
guess im stuck with time warner at $130 for all in one . Call center are indeed the armpit of America, best of luck to those who are stuck!
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Posted by ( fios_not_vios ) on April 9, 2008 at 1:48 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
you guys are nothing but a bunch of dopes. If we start a complaining forum for BH we'll get the same stuff. Every company has issues. The call centers take less than 50k calls/day in tech support. Majority are idiots that dont know how to use technology and has nothing to do w/ the FiOS service. So you do the math people. < 3% of your customers call in w/ real issues..... I think any company will take those stats..... #'s dont lie people
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Posted by ( thinkpeople ) on April 9, 2008 at 2:10 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Numbers lie all the time! Especially when they are unsubstantiated. Where did you obtain/qualify these "stats"?
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Posted by ( sincere1 ) on April 9, 2008 at 2:42 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
VERIZON PITTSBURGH MEGA CENTER
OMG! I work for the Mega Center in Pa, and I thought that it was the worst hands down. I would love for someone to investigate how Verizon treats its employees as well as the things that we are required to do when it comes to our customers. Also, to evaluate how well a company treats its employees, one would only need to do a survey to find out how many employees suffer from any stress related illnesses and are under doctors care. I challenge a reporter to do such. The numbers at the Pittsburgh office would shock you alone. Now our office is trying a new intimidation tactic that if you sell a dsl by noon, you get a "get out of obs" free card. In other words they will not observe on you and listen to your calls. The fact that that is a prize, is disturbing! High sellers are guilty of not quoting all the rates, fees, and surcharges. Managers overlook high sellers techniques because bottom line, the produce numbers. Managers have no real qualifications at this call center. KIM ONESKO, the absence administrator, bullies people and intimidates them by holding back their sick pay for no good reason, just because she can. She harasses people about illnesses that have already been approved through a third party Metlife. She doesnt realize that her stress coupled with the stress of trying to sell little old people in nursing homes a triple bundle package is too much for anyone, and therefore,her attendance rate sucks, because who wants to come to work under the extreme stress brought on by them. Verizon managers are known for saying "well we pay you well!" heres what i say..well try and find someone else to do this job for 9.00 an hour and watch your turnover rate plummet! We do a lot. Before we get off the phone we have to try and sell you..dsl, dtv, wireless onebill, freedom(long distance) package, wire maintenance, international calling plan, internet security suite, internet gaming package, I am sure there are more but I cant think. The kicker is, we use to have to make sure you had a need for the package, not anymore. Did I mention that at our center they follow you to the bathroom. They need a doctors note if you have t