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Tampa Police: Sax Player Jailed For Soliciting Donations
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Published: April 14, 2008
Updated: 04/14/2008 06:21 pm
TAMPA - Saxophone player Maximin Andre Pierre has a new reason to wail the blues.
Maximin Andre Pierre
It was bad enough, he said, that he was homeless after being arrested for stealing a milk crate – a charge he denies even though he entered a guilty plea.
Once again, he's an inmate at Orient Road Jail.
Pierre was arrested Sunday afternoon while playing his sax in Ybor City.
In addition to being behind bars, Pierre said he has been temporarily separated from his beloved King soprano saxophone, which was impounded as evidence.
The 58-year-old Pierre was warned several times by police that he should not be collecting donations in Ybor City without a permit. About 2:20 p.m., when he failed to heed those warnings, he was arrested, according to the report.
Pierre was charged with one count of vending in Ybor City without a permit, a misdemeanor.
Speaking from the Orient Road Jail, Pierre said he is "an artist who is trying to make a living with his art."
He only pled guilty to the milk crate charge because he wanted to get out of jail. But, he said, he intends to fight this latest charge, no matter how long it takes him.
"There should be something in the Constitution that protects someone with little or no power," he said. "This country was built on capitalism. What I do is one of the purest forms of capitalism there is."
Pierre said the amount of money he can earn in a day ranges widely, from nothing to $100.
The biggest single donation he received was $50, from a man who listened to him for hours, he said.
A self-described jazz musician, Pierre said he usually plays standards, like "The Pink Panther Theme," "Tequila" and "Fly Me to the Moon" when he is working the streets in Ybor City.
"If I were on stage, I would play Coltrane," he said. "I am really into straight ahead jazz."
Still, he said he prefers the streets.
"I play on the street by choice," he said, "because I enjoy the freedom."
He might get a chance to taste that freedom again soon.
This afternoon, after learning about Pierre's plight, noted First Amendment attorney Luke Lirot agreed to represent Pierre and post his $250 bond.
"We heard about it and we haven't had a chance to look at Tampa's ordinance, but based on what we heard, they are somehow harassing him and there is no constitutional way to prevent someone from playing the saxophone on the sidewalk," said Lirot's co-counsel, Brandon Kolb.
Editor Howard Altman can be reached at (813) 259-7629 or haltman@tampatrib.com.
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Posted by ( Zoospey ) on April 14, 2008 at 10:03 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
Give me a freaking break! Leave the guy alone.. Doesnt TPD have anything better to do with their time?
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Posted by ( cavedog ) on April 14, 2008 at 10:03 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
This is stupid. The cost to jail this guy is way beyond what small fee the city would receive for a permit.
Even if he was a bad sax player, there are more important criminals to take care of than this.
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Posted by ( thatguyfl82 ) on April 14, 2008 at 10:07 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
Don't Tampa Police have something better to do?!? Give me a break, if people wanna pay this man for playing them a little music so be it. This is nothing but our Gov't controlling our Money for us....
As a Musician I think its important for people to appreciate music and Tips are well earned and if people feel moved by the music and want to show this sax player gratitude than god bless them...
Totally BS!!!!
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Posted by ( 1voice ) on April 14, 2008 at 10:07 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
So what are the chances he can come up with the bail? Instead of letting the man try to earn a few bucks we'd rather foot the bill for his care? WTF?
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Posted by ( NotPlayin ) on April 14, 2008 at 10:09 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
Come on! Get out there and arrest the folks that really need to be arrested!
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Posted by ( gatorchick ) on April 14, 2008 at 10:15 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
At least he was working for the money...what about the people who stand on the side of the road and want a 'donation'???? I would rather give money to street perfomers..
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Posted by ( GF ) on April 14, 2008 at 10:23 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
Not much of a criminal, but after failure to heed "several warnings", what else is there to do? The same people would scream when Ybor was full of panhandlers and the cops did nothing to get rid of them.
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Posted by ( crumbsnatcher23 ) on April 14, 2008 at 10:26 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
Instead of arresting this man, Give him a job playing/teaching music. He's very talented musician. I've seen him several times playing near RayJay during bucs game. The forum during the lightning . Just falling on hard times.
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Posted by ( jagaka2 ) on April 14, 2008 at 10:27 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
Law enforcement gone wild.
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Posted by ( Claylisa ) on April 14, 2008 at 10:30 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
"warned several times by police" ...
not sure I trust the word "several" when coming from LE.
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Posted by ( thatguyfl82 ) on April 14, 2008 at 10:46 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
since when does playing music at 2:30 in the afternoon become a crime?
I agree with Gatorchick...
I'll never give Money to those Homeless bums on the street saying "god bless, war veteran..." Not because I don't sympathize its just how can I be so sure he's homeless and a war vet?
I'll give my few dollars to spare to someone who's earned it by entertaining me and making me smile with some good music.
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Posted by ( acuratl96 ) on April 14, 2008 at 10:50 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
SO WHAT! when I visited Memphis Tenn, on Beale Street, they have a bucket sitting in front of them while they play music, the same in New Orleans, what is the problem, find something more serious to arrest someone on.
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Posted by ( Shadow59 ) on April 14, 2008 at 10:53 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
I guess sax is not legal in Ybor.
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Posted by ( Claylisa ) on April 14, 2008 at 11:04 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
Cops: "Stop playin' the sax here or we'll have to arrest you"
Maximin: "What? I couldn't hear you over my horn. I was in at the bridge you see?"
Cops: "That's it. Your under arrest. Drop the sax and spread 'em"
**excerpt from 'We gave the perp SEVERAL warnings'. Coming to DVD in May '08!
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Posted by ( evilmunkies4 ) on April 14, 2008 at 11:06 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
So do the homeless folks have permits for donations??? At least he was working for his donation, not making our streets look bad like these other people
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Posted by ( whasup ) on April 14, 2008 at 11:08 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
How cruel. I went out alone, depressed, on my birthday,New Year's Eve, and this guy played for me for two hours. He made my night. He was friendly, had his case open for donations but never asked for a dime or mentioned money in any way. You shouldn't have to have a license to play music on the street. If he was asking for money or harassing people, that would have offended me, but he doesn't do that. Don't let the cops take away the friendly character of the Bay Area. People enjoy this kind of street entertainment.
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Posted by ( Sharona ) on April 14, 2008 at 11:17 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
Arrest the guys at the interstate exits that not only hold up signs, but walk by your car at very close range and try to stare you down for a "donation." Do these guys have permits? And why are they always there?
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Posted by ( RRR ) on April 14, 2008 at 11:17 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
I think most folks do not want to be "approached" by street people under the guise of playing music or panhandling or begging.
I also believe that most folks (rightly so) fear these types of folks for their own physical safety.
I personally will not shop at your business if there are folks asking for money in your parking lot or at your door. I expect to feel "safe" while on your property and in your business. So the business owner makes the business decision of whether or not they want our business.
Mr. Pierre who states that he lives at large might be better suited at a place where they appreciate his "music" and his "style".
Sincerely good luck to him.
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Posted by ( ndk ) on April 14, 2008 at 11:18 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
Let's remember to request from our politicians visual confirmation of a permit when they ask for "donations" during an election. What's the difference? (they don't have a bucket, and they don't do anything for the money.) I'm sure our great leaders would prefer having McJuke-boxes that take dollar bills on Ybor's street corners. Nice job TPD! Go get 'em.
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Posted by ( nataS ) on April 14, 2008 at 11:21 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
This is some Mafia style business from our City Government.
"You want to make a few bucks on our streets? Well you have to let us wet our beaks a little in the form of paying for a permit."
Big bully on the block.
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Posted by ( officegiirl ) on April 14, 2008 at 11:24 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
OMG LEAVE THAT MAN ALONE!! TIMES IS HARD MAYBE HE WANTED A MEAL OR SOMETHING... THATS RIDICIOLUS!!!
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Posted by ( Mchan760 ) on April 14, 2008 at 11:24 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
I agree with most of the people here,why do we waste our time and resources on such a petty thing,I admit its probley a lot safer arresting this guy for playing a sax for donations than it would be catching someone holding up a convient store or or stealing cars or doing someone harm." Yeah boss he started playing that sax and would not quit so i arrested him" what alot of BS
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Posted by ( MEGSUF1122 ) on April 14, 2008 at 11:35 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
I don't see the "Bums" on the side of the street being arrested for begging for money and anything else they can get out of you!
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Posted by ( cavedog ) on April 14, 2008 at 11:42 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
Quote RRR
"I think most folks do not want to be "approached" by street people under the guise of playing music or panhandling or begging.
I also believe that most folks (rightly so) fear these types of folks for their own physical safety."
....end quote
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It's called the world, and nobody promised you a rose garden. You want absolute security? Lock your doors and shop online.
And you are not speaking for most people. In fact, nobody agrees with you here.
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Posted by ( bobobelinski ) on April 14, 2008 at 11:47 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
HEY, WHY DON'T YOU LEAVE THE GUY ALONE,TPD?
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Posted by ( jagaka2 ) on April 14, 2008 at 11:49 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
Come to the jail commission meeting on Tuesday night from 6 to 9 at 1409 Falkenburg Road, across from the jail, in the Training Center. Tell them how you feel. I know it's county not city, but still law enforcement.
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Posted by ( Gen2Native ) on April 14, 2008 at 11:54 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
There should be a better way to handle this. This gentleman is a musician and has entertained us during past visits to Ybor. Street performers/buskers are plentiful in other cities - take a walk along Venice Beach and Santa Monica Pier (even the Butter Man's sales pitch was entertaining).
I agree with Sharona's comment that the people that walk along your car while you are stopped at interstate exits are of more concern to me - you can't leave even when they knock on your window because you are trapped in traffic.
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Posted by ( LARGO_TOM ) on April 14, 2008 at 12:06 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
What does a permit cost ?
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Posted by ( boydbrat ) on April 14, 2008 at 12:14 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
As someone who works downtown in the evenings and on weekends, I have seen and heard this guy play hundreds of times. Yeah, he's not the greatest musician in the world, but he's never asked anyone for a dime, has been extremely polite to anyone passing by and appreciative of even the smallest monetary gesture. By no means would I ever consider him aggressive or a "danger to society." There are far worse criminals roaming our streets--law enforcement's time could definitely be better spent. And if I had the money, I would post his bail myself!
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Posted by ( Monk ) on April 14, 2008 at 12:15 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Did anyone check his criminal record before posting these comments? This "gentleman" has been in and out of jail for various charges including theft.
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Posted by ( iamforsure ) on April 14, 2008 at 12:39 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
The thing is alot of people do agree with RRR (not me personally). That's why the city did this to begin with. They wanted people with money to feel comfortable enough to be able to spend their money in Ybor. Which then changed the face of the area you no longer have the street performers, cigar venders, fortune tellers etc. It's the price that we as a community who appreciated these things have payed to have a good tourist party attraction.
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Posted by ( rocknroll ) on April 14, 2008 at 12:42 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
I agree with Sharona, how come i see these homeless on the corner of causeway by publix every day and noone easks them to leave or arrests them. At least this guy was trying to entertain and work for donations, sorry TAMP PD but do ur job correctly and get rid of the harrassing homeless thats making our nice neighborhoods look like slums. This guy did nothing wrong in my opinion and now we foot the bill for him being arrested. Un fricking believable! Go get the alchies who stand on the corners begging!
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Posted by ( Claylisa ) on April 14, 2008 at 12:49 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Monk....your point is?
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Posted by ( northfla ) on April 14, 2008 at 12:51 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Now he is a convicted sax offender!
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Posted by ( Duncan_Macleod ) on April 14, 2008 at 1 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
TBO: Man Arrested for Sax Crime. Not again, oh wait...
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Posted by ( BUSHSUX ) on April 14, 2008 at 1:13 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Playing music on street corners is definately not threatening. This man is simply trying to earn some money, his "record" not withstanding. And we still say Americans are "FREE". Seems like our freedoms are being taken away from us by "well meaning officials". Welcome to our increasingly Facist state.
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Posted by ( Longball ) on April 14, 2008 at 1:17 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
I guess you have to make up for all that lost budget money somehow. Nice image we portray to the rest of the cities that allow street musicians. Unless the man was so good that he was causing traffic to stop or blocking the sidewalk with a large audience then leave him alone.
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Posted by ( cherrylynn18 ) on April 14, 2008 at 1:19 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
gatorchick- My words EXACTLY! I feel for the homeless, I really do. At the same time I'm so tired of them begging for money all the time. At least this guy was earning for the right to ask. Something really needs to be done about all the homeless. At least for the ones that are willing to accept the help.
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Posted by ( Longball ) on April 14, 2008 at 1:24 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Say you got a permit to sell those pencils I'm blind this helps support me. To bad tell it to the judge.
Say you got a permit to sing in a group like that. No we do it to make a little extra cash. To bad tell it to the judge.
Say you got a permit to do magic on this corner. To bad tell it to the judge.
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Posted by ( Ricky12345 ) on April 14, 2008 at 1:29 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
TPD arrest people for sitting on milk crates, scavenging through dumpsters, and now playing the sax in public. I think its time the feds start to take a look at what's going on in Tampa!
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Posted by ( signit4bes ) on April 14, 2008 at 1:30 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
ARRESTED: Street musician trying to earn a legitimate dollar.
NOT ARRESTED: Zealous religious freak who paces around Centro and 7th area shouting insults at the 'sinners' of Ybor as they pass by, while his literature litters the sidewalks. Nice!
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Posted by ( cavedog ) on April 14, 2008 at 1:43 p.m.
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Posted by ( HG813 ) on April 14, 2008 at 1:50 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
signit4bes - i totally agree with you about those crazy religious people who degrade people! This sax player is really nice and should not have been arrested.. He does not bother anyone!PLEASE! What about the freaks that are at the intersection of I-4/22nd street every morning begging for money? Or the freaks that lurk downtown every morning looking for money? Or, as previously mentioned, the ones at Publix/Bayshore that harass me every day! Come on TPD!!!
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Posted by ( flpeep ) on April 14, 2008 at 2:04 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Way to go, run off the few cool elements from Ybor! I can't believe there is really such a thing as a permit to play music! What the heck is happening to this city??
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Posted by ( Claylisa ) on April 14, 2008 at 2:06 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
signit4bes....amen...no pun intended either.
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Posted by ( morgansway ) on April 14, 2008 at 2:12 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Did not realize that not pulling a permit would land you in jail. Pretty Sad.
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Posted by ( skeeter ) on April 14, 2008 at 2:12 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
I hope the cops were acting on a complaint from some uptight businessman, and not just going around being paper checking fascists. Go eat a donut you slackers.
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Posted by ( slove ) on April 14, 2008 at 2:30 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Claylisa, good question.
Monk, really! What is your point?
I suggest you spend less time looking at police reports, and help a neighbor.
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Posted by ( Mentallyvexed ) on April 14, 2008 at 2:41 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Wow, the amount of ignorant people on here is just absolutely amazing. He broke the law. He was warned. He refused to leave, where is the issue? You say he isn't doing anything wrong? Are you that dense? He blocks off part of the sidewalk while he performs. That means he is blocking pedestrian traffic. If he sets his case open, that is an indication that he is suggesting donations. And frankly, he sucks. The music is awful and I should sue him for his "musical" assault on my ear drums. TPD did their job. I applaud them for doing it especially when it makes them unpopular with the simple people. If all of you want him in Ybor playing his music and collection donations, pool your resources together and get him a permit. Then TPD will no longer bother him. He will be a law abiding citizen making money and you bleeding heart liberals can find something else to accuse or blame TPD of doing so you feel better about yourselves.
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Posted by ( whasup ) on April 14, 2008 at 2:48 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
In order for the man to have been 'soliciting donations' he would have to ASK for money. Look it up. All he does is play music with his instrument case open in case someone might want to drop money into it. To me, this is not asking for money. This, in my view, is not a crime at all. I believe the cops are just harassing him for jollies. Can you say, "police state"????
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Posted by ( cavedog ) on April 14, 2008 at 2:49 p.m.
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Posted by ( lolalove222 ) on April 14, 2008 at 2:50 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Monk~ That information would be perfectly relevant if this man was committing a valid crime. However, seeing as he was trying to earn his money, perhaps we should all take into consideration the idea that he may very well have been turning his life around. In fact, if we were to continue on that particular train of thought, it may also be reasonable to believe that TPD has effectively told this man that he can no more earn his money than he can steal it. Because he can no longer earn his money in this fashion, it is reasonable to believe that he could revert back to his previous ways, rather than becoming a productive part of society. Therefore, TPD may have shot themselves in the foot, so to speak.
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Posted by ( whasup ) on April 14, 2008 at 2:57 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
MONK says, "Did anyone check his criminal record before posting these comments? This "gentleman" has been in and out of jail for various charges including theft."
If you look further, you'll see he hasn't been in jail for 'various charges'...only for 'theft of a container' each time. What did he do? Take a refrigerator box from the trash to sleep on 4 times in three years?
If you're going to call something 'facts' then don't exaggerate or lie about them. It degrades your credibility. Put them in their proper context.
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Posted by ( bnav ) on April 14, 2008 at 4:02 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
This just blows ! Cut the guy some slack TPD ya overzealous bastards
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Posted by ( luvco ) on April 14, 2008 at 4:05 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
I guess we know which uptight a-hole turned him in.
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Posted by ( mbrown3 ) on April 14, 2008 at 4:31 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Let this be a lesson to anyone thinking about playing music in public, lol.
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Posted by ( leopard1 ) on April 14, 2008 at 4:55 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Where's Dr. Phil's producer when he's really needed. Guess getting arrested for playing sax isn't sensational......!
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Posted by ( Alan2 ) on April 14, 2008 at 5:14 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
They definitely should have left the guy alone. He's making music, trying to make a little extra money, and they throw him in the slammer on a technicality? Ridiculous.
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Posted by ( carin27 ) on April 14, 2008 at 5:35 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Monk, I don't believe you stooped that low to make a comment like that. The man wasn't stealing or harming no one. What does his criminal record have to do with this. You sound just like your name. AWFUL. Please don't utter another word because you show the little intelligence you think you have.
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Posted by ( LovestoSingAiC ) on April 14, 2008 at 6:08 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
They arrest this guy while Debra Lafave is released from house arrest early. Good job, TPD!
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Posted by ( hotlips ) on April 14, 2008 at 6:43 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Boy, I feel a lot safer with criminals like this off the streets!
It boggles the imagination that the resources provided by the citizens are used in this manner. Meanwhile, the violent criminals often go uncaught, or worse yet, go free because someone in these same police departments didn't do their homework. It seems the police are never held to account for their behavior, but just let some guy play the sax without a permit...
As for the comment about prior arrests, were they for equally serious offenses? Just hearing that someone has been arrested does not make me feel confident that they are either guilty, or that they deserved the arrests. It is getting easier all the time to be arrested, convicted, and sentenced. The jails and prisons are full of people arrested or convicted of victimless crimes, or that have mental health issues.
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Posted by ( mgwashburn ) on April 14, 2008 at 10:05 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Yeah, stealing a milk-crate is a huge crime, I should have been put away for life for all the milk crates I stole during my college years. And you just have to feel bad for all those Ybor night-clubs that are loosing thousands of dollars to this guy. Who would want to go to one of those superclubs when you can hear music for FREE!
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Posted by ( secksfenders ) on April 14, 2008 at 11 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
watch out he could be a closet sex offender.
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Posted by ( JackNelsonSteward ) on April 15, 2008 at 9:32 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
You know, the "City Fathers" have had their eye on Ybor for lo these many years, trying to turn it into something like the French Quarter in New Orleans.
Welllll, I think, if you go to a place called "Jackson Square" (maybe not, but I think that's the place) dear Fathers, you will see musicians, jugglers, comics, mimes and all manner of buskers plying their (honorable and highly skilled) trades.
You guys have been permitting bars and clubs of all kind down in Ybor all this time. Guess what ...?
If you want "New Orleans?" There ain't another thing any more like it than some guy on a corner wailin' the blues on a horn, standin' behind an instrument case.
You got it.
Why don't you give the police "License to Busk" forms there in Ybor and, when they come up on a performer who doesn't have one, sell him one for twelve percent of whatever he has in the case?
Good for a year, displayed proudly in the case, recognizes the performer as an "Official Contributor to the Ambiance of Ybor City!"
Thank you, and good night.
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Posted by ( Jodi ) on April 15, 2008 at 10:59 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
The Tampa cops should be out arresting real criminals.
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Posted by ( Tarbucket ) on April 15, 2008 at 11:07 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
Another denizen of the seedy underworld of sax and violins is off the streets.
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Posted by ( reesecup ) on April 15, 2008 at 11:20 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
I lived in Tampa for 5 years, 3 of which I lived a block away from Ray J, the other two I worked downtown and I thoroughly enjoyed this man! Kudos to the lawyer who is taking his case and bailing him out of jail. I had gone home last night thinking about this man and what I could do. I was planning on contacting someone to see if we could raise funds for his bail. I don't care what he did in the past, let him pay for those crimes then. What he did now does not warrant his arrest. I would much rather see them arrest the beggars down on Hillsborough when you get off the interstate or the "bucket" man down off of Florida when you first get on the interstate. How about arresting that guy just because he sits down there everyday in new clothes begging for money when his cadillac is probably parked around the block and he doesn't even bother playing his bucket to entertain us. Instead these people stare you down and make you uncomfortable as if you owe any of them anything. At least this man was getting off his rump and actually doing something for money rather than begging or just sitting there. Traffic was always horrible leaving work downtown, but at least when I was stuck in traffic if I was LUCKY enough to be near where he was playing, I had great entertainment. I also stopped and listened to him quite a few times out at Ray J and outside of Legends Field. How about arresting the guy on Westshore near Westshore Mall who carries around a gas can and claims to have run out of gas? When I first moved to Tampa I gave this man money, but thankfully I worked in the Suntrust building right down the street from the gas station this man frequents and saw him asking someone else a couple of weeks later. Come on Tampa, start using your brains and get the real crooks of the streets and then maybe people will feel safe to spend their money there. Street performers are part of the American culture and history, quit trying to destroy it! Maybe Ms. Iorio (whom I love) should step up on this case and talk to her policemen about their conduct. Does Hillsborough County really need another blemish on their law enforcement after the wheelchair tapes?
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Posted by ( voxpopuli ) on April 15, 2008 at 6:01 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Hey Mayor Spam, I thought you wanted this to be a city of the arts.
Tell me have any of you FOLKS EVER ACTUALLY SEEN OR VISITED A CITY OF THE ARTS or was it just an easy word to spell?
For god's sake ... street musicians THRIVE in cities of the arts. It's not just for those among us with bad taste and big wallets. READ: most recent tampa transplants and about everyone in charge.
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Posted by ( voxpopuli ) on April 15, 2008 at 6:11 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
ClayLisa !! FUNNY !!!
Listen guys, I was WONDERING where the TPD was. Apparently they DO actually do 'something' besides stalk my family members with their firefighter friends.
Did yall read A cry in the Night in the st pete times about how close the cops are to the firefighters?? duh. AND, when a firefighter commits a murder his 'brothers' will all harangue the cops because they are SURE he is innocent. Because they know him so well and all, yknow.
ANyway... funny comments from some of yall. It's good that most Tampa peoples' hearts are in the right places.
FIX YOUR COPS AND FIREMEN. They have some serious issues. Along with your sheriffs. (and mayors, city council code enforcers, county commission .... )
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Posted by ( Tiko ) on April 16, 2008 at 3:18 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
we need to organize a protest, and get hundreds of musicians into ybor with their instrument cases open all playing the melody to Ice-T's 'Cop Killer' song.
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