Posted by ( jeaniney ) on March 24, 2008 at 10:55 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

I love that they refer to 17 year-old boys as victims. Riiiiight. If anything, I feel that the teachers are the victims! I know how 17 year-old boys can be. They're monsters!!

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Posted by ( FarmerCow ) on March 24, 2008 at 11:09 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

Does it seem like this is abundant in the Bay area? Or is it we just are not hearing about the other areas?

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Posted by ( ABBY_914 ) on March 24, 2008 at 11:49 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

I am shocked, and agree wholeheartedly...what woman in her forties could see anything in a 17 year old. Who wants the headache of raising another child?

As the parent of a student at Mitchell High School, I do have to wonder if Rick Mellin is a real person. He refuses to answer e-mails, refuses to comment on situations that should be discussed and disclosed to parents BEFORE we hear it on a local news station, and has not gained an ounce of respect among the students because he consistently shoves his responsibility off on others.

When will the Pasco school administrators deal with *that* problem?

Last year, when two students found a teacher from Seven Springs Middle School who commited suicide everything was hush hush as well.

Mr. Mellin....we were born at night but not last night. It is high time you are held accountable for the goings on at your school.

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Posted by ( mama7speed ) on March 25, 2008 at 12:12 a.m. ( Suggest removal )

This really hits close to home. My son is a junior at Mitchell and he told me he had her as a sub. Though I too have never seen Mr Mellin, this really isn't his fault. These teachers are crazy to think they're not going to get caught. Why can't they just play in their own sandbox? very stupid

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Posted by ( missUoT ) on March 25, 2008 at 12:15 a.m. ( Suggest removal )

she probably didnt get any attention from the boys when she was that age. so now she looks better and likes the attention. she looks like she has had a BIT of plastic surgery...just a bit
just my opinion

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Posted by ( rj32fla ) on March 25, 2008 at 3 a.m. ( Suggest removal )

if the government was not so easy on female this wouldn't be in the news so much. but if a male does it they would be in jail for long time. male or female you do the crime you do the time. but the government is to blame for this stuff.if they would of sentence the last 3 female teacher to jail i really don't think this would happen as much. but they decided to give them house arrest hooooo. that hard time. they will learn sooner or later.

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Posted by ( dzeien ) on March 25, 2008 at 5:35 a.m. ( Suggest removal )

40% drop out rate in our schools. Bad economy of scale. Fire 40% of these teachers and save your kids. Good economy of scale. At this rate of discovery it wil not be long until they arrest 40% of all teachers anyway. Go figure, but education is a joke here. Teachers seem to have their own agenda. Since teachers are proving themselves to be druggies, child molesters and just plain STUPID. No wonder 40% drop out. They just might be the smarter of the two groups. Now I'll wait for a teacher to call me an idiot on a response for this but you really have to wonder about them spending our money and getting paid to do as they want. They protest way too much!....not to be a participant in these crimes themselves.

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Posted by ( baccala4u ) on March 25, 2008 at 7:06 a.m. ( Suggest removal )

dzeien, You learned to cut and paste! Same old post as the last two. blaaa blaaa, blaaa. Get a life, You must have been home schooled by your mommy. And oh ya "you're an Idiot"! 30 years in the system and never touched a kid other then their minds. Go ask mommy how to use Spell check.

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Posted by ( Kowabunga ) on March 25, 2008 at 7:39 a.m. ( Suggest removal )

In my opinion it seems that it is sexual prime meeting sexual prime. Maybe these women aren't getting what they need at home so they bring it to work. No big deal , really, the 17 year olds today aren't like the 17 year olds when these teachers were going to school. As far as the 14 year old.... that's out of hand.
Meggyg8r - you're 24 now so , yeah, all you see are the older attractive men. Talk to us when you're pushing 40 and you don't feel so attractive and the guys that give you attention are the young kids. Don't be so quick to judge these older women.

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Posted by ( dogworld ) on March 25, 2008 at 7:57 a.m. ( Suggest removal )

What's all this blaming the kids and forgiving the women? The point is that this is happening in schools. I can't believe people think it's OK because boys will be boys. We need a certain atmosphere to provide education. Do we really think this is OK in any way?

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Posted by ( Yankee ) on March 25, 2008 at 8:12 a.m. ( Suggest removal )

This is getting out of control. What is the school board going to do about this epidemic? What can they do? Lord have mercy!!

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Posted by ( gswife ) on March 25, 2008 at 8:17 a.m. ( Suggest removal )

If they want something on the side put their booty on the street don't go after baby's or go sit in a bar right at closing time and I am sure they will find something that will lay them.

We have 151 female sex offender in this state in prison right now and 11,088 men I pulled up a male his LEWD ASLT/SEX BAT VCTM<16 he got 12Y 6M 0D. Then I pulled up a female and her sentence for ADLT SEX W/16-17 YR OLD is 5Y 0M 0D...
Lets see what these women get. You can see the difference clearly between a man and a woman doing the same thing they don't even charge them the same way! So much for Equal Rights!

You do the crime...

These women that are messing with these kids should be stood out on the street EVERY DAY for the next year with a sign that says "I HAD SEX WITH A 17 YEAR OLD BOY WHO I TAUGHT IN MY CLASS AT SO AND SO HIGH SCHOOL." With no makeup looking as bad as they get.. not only will they cut down on the other teachers that are thinking of a quicky after school, but if the guys that are taking the "homework" are having some old woman out there looking like death warmed over, and having all their buddy's seeing what they messed with.... There will be a lot fewer guys thinking its great to screw the teacher!

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Posted by ( marymcq ) on March 25, 2008 at 8:33 a.m. ( Suggest removal )

Hey Gonsa, looks like I'm not the only one that thinks that these women ruin everything, their career, their families, and their freedom over a 17 year old that probably wasn't worth it. What they did was wrong, but I don't think that the 17 year boy is a victim, I believe he was a willing participant, and then like most boys, bragged about it, I don't think he will need therapy. I'm speaking directly to you since you seem to be following my posts. Get a life.

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Posted by ( gswife ) on March 25, 2008 at 8:43 a.m. ( Suggest removal )

I'm not saying I don't understand the mind set of these people I am saying they need to be held acountable for the laws we have in this country and a woman should be held just as acountable as a man!

GatorsFan your stand point only goes so far you can not tell me that some man that goes out and rapes a 5 year old or younger that he came into Sexual Bloom at that age!

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Posted by ( GatorsFan ) on March 25, 2008 at 9:34 a.m. ( Suggest removal )

gaswife, I respect your position but must point out that we're not talking about forcible rape of wee small children, but the abuse of kids that have reached sexual (but not mental) maturity. There is a difference, one as wide as the Alafia River.

From what I've read --and admittedly it's not been much--- many pedophiles were themselves abused as children, a lot at the age of their victims later on. That doesn't forgive or ameliorate the crime, but it does give us all a glimpse into the mind of such abusers.

My gripe with the way things are being handled is that far too much attention comes in the form of hysteria: "Tar and feather them all. One sex crime's as bad as the next. Mark them all with a scarlet letter, send them all out into the desert." This is simply muddle-headed; it serves no purpose except to cloud judgement.

When it comes to sex crimes, it seems like all are major, none are minor --the peeping Tom is as bad as the child rapist-- and society will have its pound of flesh regardless of the severity.

The Lord tells us "Hate the sin, love the sinner" (or words to that effect). It might do us all a bit of good to consider that as we seek vengeance against those whose transgressions cross the double yellow line of of our tolerance.

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Posted by ( jeepguy ) on March 25, 2008 at 9:43 a.m. ( Suggest removal )

There are a lot of crazy women out there. All these female hs/middle school teachers going after 13-17 yr old boys. Its like a fad or something....you see it in the news every day happening all over the country. Some of these women are attractive too..its not your stereotypical old pervert. Kinda crazy how teachers (people who society/children trust) are the biggest culprits.

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Posted by ( mrpoge ) on March 25, 2008 at 9:50 a.m. ( Suggest removal )

I always thought that the 'F' in FCAT stood for Florida. I guess I was wrong.

I can't believe that some of the posters here are deflecting the blame away from the teachers involved in these incidents. They should be locked away in prison for a long time. These are *children* who they are abusing when they are supposed to be educating. The adults are supposed to know right from wrong, and pass that knowledge on.

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Posted by ( beachbum08 ) on March 25, 2008 at 9:56 a.m. ( Suggest removal )

Does this mean we will see an end to the statements by religious bigots implying that all priests are sex abusers? Every time I mention I went to a Catholic Boarding school someone (usually a "tolerant" liberal) makes a religious slur about priests and all the people who would go crazy if someone uses the "N" word just laugh. Maybe all public school teachers union members should be polygraphed and investigated for sex with children. Looks like there are a lot of pervs in the public schools. Are you a teacher? Getting any at school these days?

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Posted by ( howsad ) on March 25, 2008 at 10:06 a.m. ( Suggest removal )

That Stephanie woman looks happy about it in her mug shot

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Posted by ( 6ftunder ) on March 25, 2008 at 10:26 a.m. ( Suggest removal )

These women are ugly as hell. Why would a young guy want any of them? I wouldn't even think an older guy would.

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Posted by ( cadillacman ) on March 25, 2008 at 10:56 a.m.

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Posted by ( Daisytoo ) on March 25, 2008 at 11:02 a.m. ( Suggest removal )

"Experts say it's not an epidemic"

What experts?

This IS an epidemic. Up until 6 or 7 years ago, female teachers molesting their students was almost nonexistent. Now it's commonplace.

It's not surprising to me that this is a growing phenomena. Many weak woman, following the feminist movement like so many cows, have rejected desirable masculine qualities, and of course, the men that have good, strong masculine qualities. Consequently, there is an overabundance of immature women in our culture at the moment. Males have also been harmed by this movement as well.

Feminists need to be in control of EVERYTHING/EVERYONE. The perfect male = someone almost like her. Teenage males fit the bill; they have power over them.

These women are sick and seriously harmful. Immature male fantasies/bravado aside - they are sexually harming these boys and young men. As a Psychotherapist, I've worked w/men who were victims of sexual predators - and what sounds lightweight and even desirable as a fantasy, I assure you, is harmful in reality.

I hope they are punished to the full extent of the law. Of course, as members of one of the lousier w/corruption unions on the face of the earth (teacher's union) their defense will be paid for - and it will be about impossible for these deviants to be removed from the classroom.

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Posted by ( cadillacman ) on March 25, 2008 at 11:29 a.m. ( Suggest removal )

NOW THATS FUNNY

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Posted by ( steelcurtain ) on March 25, 2008 at 11:59 a.m. ( Suggest removal )

it is amazing to me how many people are saying that the teacher is the victim. WOW!!! If that was men these people would be calling them all kinds of names and saying what they would do to them. PEOPLE, these were adults you had sex with minors!!!

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Posted by ( cadillacman ) on March 25, 2008 at 12:05 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

SPRING IS IN THE AIR AND THIS NUTJOBS(LOL)ARE IN SEASON.....JUST HOPE THEY DONT HAVE A LITTER

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Posted by ( Luna ) on March 25, 2008 at 12:36 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

Looks like someone has had a wee bit too much botox.

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Posted by ( msmith35 ) on March 25, 2008 at 12:57 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

they're must be an underground cult produces these women we don't know about. i don't understand what a grown a** woman would see in a young boy. it's all about control.

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Posted by ( thinkb4upost ) on March 25, 2008 at 1:35 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

Hey ariana, not all substitutes are bored housewives. Some actually see the need for their presence in schools. Teachers are ridiculously under paid and over worked. They have families of their own and have to take time off. The system also drags them out for all kinds of workshops, meetings, and various improvement courses. All of which are mandatory. Substitutes are a necessity in order to keep the schools operating. It's too bad the system doesn't do more with screening and training. Of course, if they would be willing to pay a reasonable wage, that could help too. Schools, for the most part, may end up with people who can't find a better paying job elsewhere mixed in with those of us who actually care about what is happening with our kids today.

If this is all true, Mrs. Marinelli was 100 percent wrong. She had all the power to choose to NOT allow this to ever happen. She made a bad choice. She and her family will suffer for it for a long time. The young man also made a choice. He chose to side with his hormones instead of common sense and use of self-control. I'm sure he was well aware that what he was doing was wrong. He was not 'abused' one or two times. He enjoyed this woman's attention and company several times and right or wrong, it is not abuse. He is too close to legal age to be called a child in my opinion. Both he and Mrs. Marinelli should have left their relationship in the classroom and not gone anywhere alone. It's all about choice and consequences. She needs counseling, personal and marital. The student needs guidance too. He contributed to adultery and needs to be well aware of his role in it. He, at that age, can not go without blame or consequence. I say good for his Dad for reporting the situation but now let's see if the son has to do penance. Help your son learn from his mistake. Mrs. Marinelli wasn't the only one in the wrong here and I'm certain she will pay for her mistake. Her family already is.

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Posted by ( usfguy227 ) on March 25, 2008 at 2:06 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

To all of the people who love to say, "This never happened 6 or 7 years ago" or "You never saw this in the 60's or 70's". Just like no priests molested any boys back then, it's just happening now. Oh wait, they DID. People are coming out and admitting something that happened back then. Who's to say that it wouldn't happen now?

I don't think people will come out and admit that they had sex with a teacher when they were in school because it isn't nearly as traumatic (if it is at all for boys) as the priest issue. However, you don't know how often in happened back then, so don't pretend to know.

You can stand on your soapbox and say that this country has gone downhill, but you're speaking out of ignorance. Nothing in society is new. People are the same now as they have been in the past. There has always been homosexuals, older men and women attracted to younger boys and girls, and every other vice or taboo we have in society. We have not invented new ways of "sinning". Taking "god out of the classroom" has nothing to do with it, as I've read in a different room. To a large degree, it's human nature. Society, defined as the collection of cultures for the last few thousand years, has not changed much at all.

Just because the media reports the "News" doesn't mean it is, in fact, "New".

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Posted by ( lauriem ) on March 25, 2008 at 3:24 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

Who says blonds have more fun?

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Posted by ( flowergirl ) on March 25, 2008 at 3:29 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

All the men wish these teachers were around when they were in school . . . How cool would it have been if you'd contracted some disease from the teacher or gotten her pregnant? Now people also have to worry about AIDS. How cool will it be to have made it with the hot teacher when you've found she's given you AIDS?? These teachers don't show very good judgment in the fact that they're selecting underaged partners, who knows if either of them are using any kind of protection?? It's enough of a nightmare WITHOUT disease or pregnancy becoming a by-product of the encounter. I COMPLETELY AGREE with those who say that if this were a male offender, he would be locked away. I don't see WHY it's different with women. I hate to be sexist in this way, but I would like to think we expect MORE of women, especially women who are teachers. People who are supposed to guide our children, not MISGUIDE them. ALL these female offenders should be locked away just as their male counterparts have. Don't tell me they all have Debra Beasley's (can't blame her ex, Owen LaFave, for not wanting her to keep his name) defense, mental illness. Can't male offenders make the same claim and avoid prison as well? LOCK THEM ALL AWAY. House arrest is too good for them. Time BEHIND BARS is what they should receive. Maybe THAT will make the next teacher think twice about going after one of her students.

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Posted by ( cadillacman ) on March 25, 2008 at 3:50 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

TO BILL H.... BOY ARE U AN IDIOT....A 40YR OLD HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH A 17YR OLD A 17 YR OLD IS NOT PREPAIRED TO DEAL WITH A TEACHER MOLESTING THEM

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Posted by ( secksfenders ) on March 25, 2008 at 4:59 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

geez....if it were an old man who molested a young tender waif, you guys would be calling for a public hanging. Now you just laugh it off....no wonder this country is going down to H***L.

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Posted by ( signit4bes ) on March 25, 2008 at 5:59 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

...and we want a woman in the WhiteHouse?

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Posted by ( bc ) on March 25, 2008 at 6:06 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

"Go figure, but education is a joke here."

Hmmmm...Marinelli...wanna bet she's from Jersey or New York? Another rust belt loser coming here,then spending the rest her life complaining about how it (it covering basically everything bu the "weathuh") was "bettah up North"

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Posted by ( flhomeschoolers ) on March 25, 2008 at 6:46 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

A-B-C 1-2-3 S-E-X

#1 Where are the parents? They should notice things like their kids coming home drunk or being out all night or having tons of texts from a teacher.
#2 FL is so desperate for teachers you don't have to do anything but have a college degree and take a 3 week course. One FL teacher I know admitted they don't even do drug tests on hire.
#3 - Gee, I wonder why homeschooling is on the rise. . .

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Posted by ( dogworld ) on March 25, 2008 at 7:12 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

Or...if someone at a school goes up to a 17 year old and threatens him with a knife to steal his jacket. And the 17 year old gives him the jacket...he is guilty of giving him the jacket? Because he was old enough to fight back, or run?
So you are saying a 17 year old is mature enough to engage in an adulterous affair with a middle aged woman because his testosterone is at max levels?

And that the adult is not guilty of anything because the kid said yes?

Sad commentary on your judgment.

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Posted by ( Martha ) on March 25, 2008 at 9:02 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

Thanks to these "horney" educators, I am ashamed to tell anyone that I was once a proud teacher educating our future generation.

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Posted by ( cavedog ) on March 25, 2008 at 9:54 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

These cases are not all the same. The two involving a 17 year old I would not classify as a crime.

More at www.globalforums.org

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Posted by ( signit4bes ) on March 25, 2008 at 10:13 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

For those asking "where are the parents?"....

She's 40 years old for crying out loud!

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Posted by ( thinkb4upost ) on March 25, 2008 at 4:32 p.m.

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...looks like thinkb4upost didn't think before posting.

All of these posts are very entertaining.

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Posted by ( scbrownsr ) on March 26, 2008 at 9:14 a.m. ( Suggest removal )

This is crap. The boys knew what they were doing and no one beat or forced them to have sex with these teachers. I see these young boys around here and they are faster and have more game than I ever had. Ha! Im sure us older guys can learn a thing or 2 from them. Unfortunatley, they learn it from TV, radio, videos, etc.... A little home training could help as well. I take nothing away from the teachers, they are wrong from the beginning. But I feel this wont stop until both parties are punished. Teachers should also be required to take annual training courses like the business world.

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Posted by ( dhendrix99 ) on March 26, 2008 at 1:31 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

i say that if a teacher really needs a young shag , then check id's make sure he/she is 18 otherwise they get what is coming to them , by the time your 40 your should now how to id someone, if they use a fake id or its suspicous then run their name in the public database , not worth ruining a career over, or just go to these clubs in tampa there will usually be young adults who want to get with a nice looking older lady/ man just gotta prowl a lil better, maybe take em out shopping or for dinner if u have too, but be absolutely sure that id isnt fake,

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Posted by ( jamesbenson ) on March 26, 2008 at 5:14 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

If you think this is bad,look to hospitals to see how many female nurses are groping and molesting unconsious
male patients. Happens all the time.
go to www.allnurses.com then do a
search for whoa...inappropriate
then read the continuation

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Posted by ( mrwright ) on March 27, 2008 at 12:59 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

The reason "it's" so bad is because of the amount of people that think "it's" no big deal. Look at the amount of people saying "where were these teachers when I was in school?"
Your the ones that need to watched REAL close...

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Posted by ( GONASA ) on March 27, 2008 at 6:53 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

marymcq - You posted here first and spelled my name wrong.

So who needs a life?

As for the posters that think that teachers having sex with their students are okay...
I said it before, if it were a female student, the dynamic would be totally reversed.

What I had a problem with was TWICE you made some disgusting comment about the boys finishing their business before the teacher even got her pants off.

I see your name is "Mary" would that be "Mary Kay Letourneau?"

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Posted by ( Colorado ) on March 27, 2008 at 7:35 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

How about psychological evaluations before hiring any teacher/school authority! Background checks simply aren't enough.

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Posted by ( sdk ) on March 27, 2008 at 11:57 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

Our morals have gone sour and the future generations will suffer most. Think about who you vote for ... from school superintendants to presidency of the United States. There has to be consequences to actions and they should be equal.

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Posted by ( typhonblue ) on March 28, 2008 at 1:02 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

And a kid will eat candy till they die if adults don't stop them.

What these teenage kids think happened is irrelevant. THAT'S WHY THEY ARE MINORS AND WE ARE ADULTS. They don't understand the reprecussions of their actions and don't make choices that are necessarily good for them.

This society oversexualizes _boys_. It hardly believes there's a moment in time where a boy _isn't_ ready for sex. Some 20 year old woman had sex with a 6 year old boy? He was asking for it man! He's soooo lucky.

Unfortunately these situations have real-world consequences. Disease, risk of pregnancy(and thus the boy spending the next two decades paying for 'getting lucky'), and psychological illness.

They don't know it now, they're hiding their victimization behind crude words and arrogance (like a lot of young men) but they will have comparable rates of psychological problems as GIRLS WHO ARE VICTIMIZED BY OLDER MALE AUTHORITY FIGURES.

There is no difference. And I invite all of you to view this page, and the comments using this:

http://regender.com/index.html

And see how mentally ill most of you are.

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Posted by ( ThoseDamnCanucks ) on March 29, 2008 at 7:02 p.m. ( Suggest removal )

First and fore-most, I don't think any of these teachers are "good-looking." Maybe, it's their witty personalities or their "way of teaching." But to refer to them as hot is absurd. Secondly, everyone's addressed the 17 year old adding another knotch to their belt, but never truly addressed the 14 year old. So, three years down the line, it'll be okay for the 14 year old to have sex with his teacher?

I do agree with the double-egded sword. So, if it were a man having sex