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Should strip searches be allowed in schools in the name of safety?

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Poll Opened: April 21, 2009

Poll Closes: April 21, 2009

Justices hear arguments over school strip search

WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court seemed worried Tuesday about tying the hands of school officials looking for drugs and weapons on campus as they wrestled with the appropriateness of a strip-search of a 13-year-old girl accused of having prescription-strength ibuprofen.

Savana Redding was 13 when Safford, Ariz., Middle School officials, on a tip from another student, ordered her to remove her clothes and shake out her underwear looking for pills. The district bans prescription and over-the-counter drugs.

Her lawyer argued to the Supreme Court that such a "intrusive and traumatic" search would be unconstitutional in every circumstance if school administrators were not directly told the contraband was in her underwear.

"A school needs to have location-specific information" to put a child through such an embarrassing search, lawyer Adam B. Wolf said.

Would it be constitutional if officials were looking for weapons, or drugs like crack, meth or heroin? "Does that make a difference?" Justice Anthony Kennedy asked. No, Wolf replied.

That leaves school administrators with the choice of embarrassing a child through a search or possibly having other children die while in their care, Justice David Souter said. "With those stakes in mind, why isn't that reasonable?" Souter said.

Wolf said school officials violated the Fourth Amendment, which prohibits unreasonable searches. School officials didn't bother to search her desk or locker, or even question additional students to find out if anyone thought Redding could be hiding drugs in her underwear, he said.

"There needs to be suspicion that the object is under the clothes," Wolf said.

A 1985 Supreme Court decision that dealt with searching a student's purse has found that school officials need only reasonable suspicions, not probable cause. But the court also warned against a search that is "excessively intrusive."

A schoolmate had accused Redding, then an eighth-grade student, of giving her pills.

Vice Principal Kerry Wilson took Redding to his office to search her backpack. When nothing was found, Redding was taken to a nurse's office where she says she was ordered to take off her shirt and pants. Redding said they then told her to move her bra to the side and to stretch her underwear waistband, exposing her breasts and pelvic area. No pills were found.

A federal magistrate dismissed the lawsuit Redding and her mother April brought, and a federal appeals panel agreed that the search didn't violate her rights. But last July, a full panel of the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals found the search was "an invasion of constitutional rights."

The court also said Wilson could be found personally liable.

The school's lawyer argued that the courts should not limit school officials' ability to search out what they think are dangerous items on school grounds. "We've got to be able to make decisions," lawyer Matthew Wright said.

But justices worried that allowing a strip search of school age children might lead to more intrusive searches, like body cavity searches. "There would be no legal basis in saying that was out of bounds," Souter said.

Redding, now a 19-year-old college freshman living in her hometown of Safford in rural eastern Arizona, took her first airplane ride to watch the arguments. "It was pretty overwhelming," she said, standing before a bank of cameras and a few dozen reporters outside the building.

She said she is considering becoming a counselor, which might mean she could end up working in a school. Asked how she would handle the situation as a counselor, she said she would call a student's parents first. "I didn't have that option," she said, outside the court. "I'm a little kid. I didn't have any idea how it would be handled. But my mom would."

There were flashes of humor during the serious arguments.

Justice Antonin Scalia apparently discovered that children sometime sniff permanent markers looking for a high as he questioned why the school confiscated them. "They sniff them?" Scalia said.

"That's what kids do, your honor, unfortunately," Wright said.

"Really?" Scalia said.

And Justice Stephen Breyer can expect years of teasing after a misstatement as he was trying to point out that it might not be unusual for children to hide things from teachers in their underwear.

"In my experience when I was 8 or 10 or 12 years old, you know, we did take our clothes off once a day, we changed for gym, OK? And in my experience, too, people did sometimes stick things in my underwear." Breyer hesitated as he realized what he said as the courtrooom erupted in laughter.

He quickly recovered and added: "Or not my underwear. Whatever. Whatever."

The case is Safford Unified School District v. April Redding, 08-479.

What are you thoughts? Was this a reasonable search by the school system, or did it go too far?



Reader Comments on this poll

Posted by ( mr_hanky ) on April 21, 2009 at 9:11 a.m. ( Suggest removal )

No friggin' way! All that for an Advil??? That's a bit excessive. Just how far will the nanny state go to "protect" people from themselves and each other?

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Posted by ( 1madvet ) on April 21, 2009 at 9:32 a.m. ( Suggest removal )

Wish someone would strip search me:{

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Posted by ( SMB ) on April 21, 2009 at 9:47 a.m. ( Suggest removal )

Schools have no business conducting strip searches. If they are concerned that the child is doing something illegal, hold them in the office and contact the police.

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Posted by ( NrfHrdr ) on April 21, 2009 at 9:50 a.m. ( Suggest removal )

A strip search for tylenol is retarded. To be fair, this really wasn't a real strip search...Big Beulah the detention deputy with the rubber gloves is a strip search (shudder). I DO think the little thuglets should have to deal with her if they are suspected of weapons or illegal drugs...But tylenol!?

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Posted by ( angeleyes347 ) on April 21, 2009 at 9:51 a.m. ( Suggest removal )

Drug use?Ibuprofen?OH cmon thats ridiculous to put a child through that for Motrin.

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Posted by ( glowworm ) on April 21, 2009 at 9:53 a.m. ( Suggest removal )

NO I do not think a strip search should be allowed to be done at school.

I do believe that school safety is key, so if the administration is worried, then the person should be turned over to the police and allow them to do an investigation. If the subject is underage, by law the parent must be present at the interview, and it should be dealt with in accordance to the law.

School administation, and teachers HAVE NO AUTHORITY to enforce the laws, only the police and local law enformcent agencies. Hence their name, "Law Enforcement".

Most schools now a days have local police officers/sherrifs on site, they can detain the subject, and do any investigation if needed.

This school is looking at one huge lawsuit!, if that was my child, I would sue the pants off everyone involved. If they were lucky to live that long.

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Posted by ( thetrav ) on April 21, 2009 at 10:20 a.m. ( Suggest removal )

This was far from a "strip search." And was done only in the company of another female, the school nurse. I think they should have done a full body-cavity search on this cow. First, Motrin, then who knows what else.

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Posted by ( suemccartin ) on April 21, 2009 at 11:14 a.m. ( Suggest removal )

Schools should not have the power to violate a person's constitutional right against unwarranted searchs and seizures; and I don't care if the person is a minor. I believe metal detectors may be appropriate for schools and perhaps I'll even go as far as backpack searches, but, what was done to this girl goes way too far, especially since the one that turned her in may have less than honorable reasons for doing so (i.e. maybe she was the one selling the pills and wanted to divert attention from herself or there was a rivalry over a male or something like that). School personnel are not qualified to do anything of this sort in any way shape or form. After having been victimized by school officials myself as a child, I've seen the sort of stuff that goes on and how kids get treated; it's an guilty till proven innocent thing and there is no way to do anything about inequities except sue the school board. If they thought she was selling pills, the right way to handle it was to call the police, not cause her the humiliation caused here. I also tend to agree that nobody (law enforcement or not) should be strip searching a minor child without a parent present. I realize that problems are rampant in school, but I think the best way to handle that is to bring back the old idea of reform schools where the miscreants are separated from everyone else; of course the human rights bunch won't allow that because we already know what segments of society will be the majority there. Strip searchs are very rarely appropriate, jail is about the only place I can honestly say I agree with them and those people have already had their day in court, not like here where a determination of guilt was decided without the qualifications to do so, without a proper investigation, and without even listening to her side of anything...as a result her rights got violated. The principal should be held personally responsible for the actions of his staff and the school board should pay out big for what happened here. Nuff said.

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Posted by ( Junior_Mints ) on April 21, 2009 at 11:16 a.m.

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